About what I expected from you -- rope-a-dope and homework assignments. I'd be your dope to debate on your terms -- and I won't.
You know what he did, we discussed the unconstitutional admissions of both Nevada (insufficient population) and West Virginia (part of an existing State, no consent of same to partition) to death, and we went 15 rounds each on his suppression of the People in Missouri and Maryland -- and their governments in both States, using a cabal of Wide Awakes in Missouri and the Army in Maryland to impose direct military rule in both.
(*yawn*) One man's opinion, until you show otherwise.
Slothful induction, bad faith in discourse. Already demonstrated in abundance by nolu chan's documentation of Lincoln's interference with the Judiciary Branch and suppression of civil rights in arresting citizens, legislators, newspapermen, Rep. Vallandigham, and his issue of a warrant for Chief Justice Taney.
Mark Neely can run out his "so's your old man, and you're another" recriminatory jibes about Jeff Davis until the cows come home, but the fact remains, that Lincoln did all these things out of his determination to conquer the South. He didn't have to open hostilities by ignoring the People and pretending to govern by force the People of another country, in pursuit of an irridentist policy of forcible reunion. As the term of art would have it now, the Civil War was, for him, a discretionary war -- an option. He voluntarily advanced these policies and methods, as part of his larger policy.
As I said -- these weren't just "emergency measures", they were his answer to the problem posed by constitutional slavery in the South and the rights of the Southerners and their States, the problem he had confessed in his letters of 1855 that he didn't yet know how to solve. These methods were his response to the problem as he saw it, his modus operandi -- just as I said.
His determination to conquer being that great, he both ruled and conquered with the same iron glove -- the Army, which was unleashed on dissent in the North as well as on the Southern States.
Or do I have to document the fact that Lincoln used the Army?!
I'm not aware of any constitutional population requirement for statehood.
...and West Virginia (part of an existing State, no consent of same to partition)....
Consent was obtained from the Virginia legislature not participating in the rebellion.
and we went 15 rounds each on his suppression of the People in Missouri and Maryland -- and their governments in both States, using a cabal of Wide Awakes in Missouri and the Army in Maryland to impose direct military rule in both.
Then admit that in both cases you have presented your opinons, calling them fact, and that I disputed those opinions. But the matter is far from settled.
Already demonstrated in abundance by nolu chan's documentation of Lincoln's interference with the Judiciary Branch and suppression of civil rights in arresting citizens, legislators, newspapermen, Rep. Vallandigham, and his issue of a warrant for Chief Justice Taney...
Oh give me a freakin' break. Trot out the 'Taney arrest' story all you want, the fact is that there is no more that speculation and innuendo to support it. Suppression of civil rights occured on both sides, as even you admit, but were done within the guidlines laid out by Congress and you can't point to a single, deliberate Constitutional infraction. You claim and you harp and you condemn Lincoln for everything up to and including a rainy day, and give a free pass to worse infractions on the part of Davis. Lincoln's actions were done with a single objective, to put down the illegal and unconstitutional southern rebellion and not, as you claim, "to conquer the South".
He didn't have to open hostilities ...
Which is even more BS. Lincoln did not open hostilities, Davis did. You can blather all you want about how Lincoln forced Davis to, and it's all ridiculous. Davis didn't do a single damned thing that he wasn't eager to. He wanted the war, he needed the war, he got his war and had his ass kicked in the bargain.
Or do I have to document the fact that Lincoln used the Army?!
No, but documenting the rest of your BS would be nice,