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To: MACVSOG68
"Are you kidding? When they showed President Bush with an 80% approval rating, they were all over them. But I do know that you are a careful poll watcher youself."

This is what I said:

There are no polls most Freepers agree with. Freepers are known for not having much confidence in MSM polls..

That still holds.
Go back to the polls threads for the past 3 years, and you'll see what I mean.


"I used the last 2 and a half months, as I told you before because it was after the Senate debate and the marches and demonstrations"

House Bill was in December


"And in the end they will get exactly what they want...nothing."

If by "nothing" you mean we don't get to give amnesty to 12 million illegals, and still enforce current immigration laws, then "nothing" is just fine.


"They are weighted when looking at political questions, but I'm sure you knew that."

MSM polls use more RATS political questions or not.
Plus immigration is a political issue.
There is a very wide gap between what liberals want and what conservatives want.
108 posted on 07/17/2006 9:07:42 AM PDT by Jameison
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To: Jameison
House Bill was in December

I'm perfectly willing to show you polls from January including the one you used from Time Magazine to try and support your point while overlooking what it really said. But you seriously think that your polls from a business association mean more than every poll in the past 2 and a half months? You threw out the polls first. Now you reject the polls because they don't support you.

If by "nothing" you mean we don't get to give amnesty to 12 million illegals, and still enforce current immigration laws, then "nothing" is just fine.

I didn't see any amnesty in either of the bills, but in any case, if you think the Senate bill gives a path to citizenship for 12 million (or more likely 20 million), you haven't read it.

MSM polls use more RATS political questions or not. Plus immigration is a political issue. There is a very wide gap between what liberals want and what conservatives want.

Still trying to rationalize using polls but not using polls? Even if they didn't weight them, which they do, 73% in some polls would still not fit into your conspiracy theory...unless all the polling organizations have gotten together including Fox's, and asked what answers Teddy Kennedy wanted. Tinfoil hat time.

MSM polls use more RATS political questions or not.

You do understand the concept of random sampling? Again, that's the purpose of weighting, to account for differences in party count.

109 posted on 07/17/2006 10:30:02 AM PDT by MACVSOG68
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