And keep in mind we have not seen all the pictures from that night. There are certainly pictures with both women without clothing and I don't believe we have even had a report on the time stamps on any of those pictures.
For those who didn't see this earlier on the other thread, this is interesting. Prompted by the discussion with KenH yesterday afternoon, I did some research this morning and here's what I've found, along with the NC State Bureau of Investigation website from which the data came.
http://sbi2.jus.state.nc.us/crp/public/Default.htm
In 2005, for North Carolina, there were 1,465 arrests statewide for Prostitution and Commercial Vice. The state's population for 2005 is estimated @ 8,683,42. That's one arrest per 5,927 persons.
There were 1,800 arrests for Sex Offenses statewide for the same year. That's a ratio of one arrest per 4,824 persons.
In Durham County, there were NO ARRESTS in 2005 for Prostitution and Commercial Vice. There were nine arrests in 2004.
There were 9 arrests in Durham County for Sex Offenses in 2005, none in 2004.
Durham County's 2005 population is 242,582. That makes the ratio ONE ARREST PER 26,953 PERSONS!!
Oh, I almost forgot. ALL the arrests in 2004 and 2005 were made by the DURHAM COUNTY SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT. None were made by the Durham PD or the Duke University PD.
You're right. We haven't seen all the photos yet.
For all Nifong's talk about HIS timeline, I think he is locked in. The most time he has for this supposed rape to occur is 21 minutes (between 12:04 and 12:26) and there may be more photos that narrow that down further.
During this time Reade has a virtually ironclad alibi and I think Collin does as well.
Another thing that cuts down on the 21 minutes for the supposed assault is the time Kim and the accuser spent locked in the bathroom. In her handwriten statement Kim refers to "finally" coming out of the bathroom, implying they were in there for some significant period of time. Even if they were only in there for 5 minutes that cuts 21 minutes down to 16, and 10 minutes cuts it to 11 minutes.
Basically, I think Nifong's goose is cooked and I don't see what possible timeline he can produce that can put the three indicted players in that bathroom with the accuser.
Yes, we have. Abrams saw and reported on them, photos in hand during one of his shows. The photos you speak of are at like 12:01 - 12:03.