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Call adds mystery to lacrosse case (DukeLax)
News and Observer ^ | July 12, 2006 | Joseph Neff

Posted on 07/12/2006 1:52:14 AM PDT by abb

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To: TommyDale

Wasn't there some issue earlier in the day where she knocked Brian's (or one of her drivers/boyfriend/pimp/whatever) phone into some water? If so, she may have loaned him her phone and then borrowed another one from one of the other guys just to use while she did that night's gigs.


201 posted on 07/12/2006 2:03:49 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: TommyDale

Could be, but more likely it's a vice squad operation that the chief knows or recently learned about.


202 posted on 07/12/2006 2:05:25 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

Some Talking head lawyer said that (maybe its a NC thing) the Judge will not rule on dismissal until after the state has presented its case.


203 posted on 07/12/2006 2:06:55 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: Mad-Margaret

There was nothing unusual or unreasonable about Judge Stephens wanting to review and redact irrelevant calls from a phone belonging to somebody not (technically) involved in the case.


204 posted on 07/12/2006 2:08:14 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle
"How about this: Mangum got ripped off by Kim and wanted to get a quick gig from another agency so she'd have some cash to pay over to her main pimp without him knowing she got ripped off or not paid because she was so hammered?"

Entirely logical.

205 posted on 07/12/2006 2:09:45 PM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: Jezebelle
"Could be, but more likely it's a vice squad operation that the chief knows or recently learned about."

] That would assume that Durham Police Department actually wanted to stop the prostitution. That is too far reaching for me. I think they are in it all the way to their earlobes.

206 posted on 07/12/2006 2:11:39 PM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: Locomotive Breath

That's how I remember it, too. Nifong didn't want to cooperate and seemed to think he didn't have to because the records weren't discoverable because he had not received them from DPD - they were in possession of DPD. Judge Stephens deemed them discoverable and only wanted to make sure that calls not made during the time periods the defense was requesting weren't released because the phone belonged to a third party.


207 posted on 07/12/2006 2:11:49 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

She spilled a drink on his phone.


208 posted on 07/12/2006 2:12:34 PM PDT by TommyDale (Stop the Nifongery!)
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To: Jezebelle

That does not fit with Jarriel Johnsons statement.

She spilled on his phone - he got angry and took her home. He said later, when his phone was NOT working, he called her and told her that he could NOT drive her.

I think he got mad again when the phone wouldnt work.


209 posted on 07/12/2006 2:13:18 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Somebody Stop Me !)
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To: TommyDale

I have to disagree. Judge Stephens' handling of the phone records matter was reasonable.


210 posted on 07/12/2006 2:13:29 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Mike Nifong

That makes sense. It makes sense of the "advice" we got. It it had proceeded to trial, it would have been dismissed, therefore, placed on back burner for two years. I get it now.


211 posted on 07/12/2006 2:19:50 PM PDT by Constitutions Grandchild
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To: Jezebelle

If the AV had more than one cell phone it makes a difference. She may have placed other calls to the Bunny Hole, Angels, Allure, etc., during the supposed time of the rape. No call to her driver??? Only one call to another service, Centerfold, doesn't make sense.

I am also wondering if the AV made personal and "business" calls on the same phone.


212 posted on 07/12/2006 2:19:52 PM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: TommyDale

So am I, and if your phone number was on a list of calls made to or from a pimp days or weeks before the event in question, you wouldn't want it released either. Suppose you're a car salesman or a realtor and the pimp contacted you about his interest in a house or car? Your phone number shows up on his cell phone call registry three days before the rape. That gets released to the public. Let's say the pimp didn't follow through and buy from you, so you have no paperwork showing a transaction to justify the phone call.

Now, explain that to your wife and kids.


213 posted on 07/12/2006 2:21:13 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Mad-Margaret

He's waiting to see how much support for Nifong wanes. He's got time yet to decide. If this case calms down, he'll probably run. But if it becomes more racial, he probably won't because he knows Nifong will get almost the entire black vote. If the case gets dismissed, he'll probably run because he'll smell Nifong's blood in the water.


214 posted on 07/12/2006 2:24:08 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Jezebelle

LOL! Make that "mortar"!


215 posted on 07/12/2006 2:25:58 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: TommyDale

I worked vice for seven years.

BTW, that was supposed to be "mortar", lol, not "motor"!


216 posted on 07/12/2006 2:27:01 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Perhaps they use their work addresses for their voter registration.


217 posted on 07/12/2006 2:28:29 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: ltc8k6

It was probably in the search warrant list of items sought.


218 posted on 07/12/2006 2:29:46 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: Constitutions Grandchild

Nifong can dismiss under prosecutorial discretion anytime he wants to.


219 posted on 07/12/2006 2:32:52 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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To: JLS

Quite right.


220 posted on 07/12/2006 2:34:01 PM PDT by Jezebelle (Our tax dollars are paying the ACLU to sue the Christ out of us.)
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