[Lexinom]

You will agree there's only so far they can go. There is an archetypical form for the species. Otherwise the fossil record would be chock full of transitional forms. It is not.

That's why we're discussing the notion of evolution occurring quickly - after all, we know evolution is true, we just need to fit the facts to match the theory.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

"You will agree there's only so far they can go."

Why would one do that?

"There is an archetypical form for the species."

No there isn't.

"Otherwise the fossil record would be chock full of transitional forms. It is not."

Sure it is.

[CarolinaGuitarman]

Oh, BTW, you still haven't defended your silly claim that *pigeons* are one species.