Posted on 07/10/2006 8:41:39 AM PDT by girlangler
From where did you get that info? The breed was fully recognized by the AKC in the '80s, so it has to be before that. I think it may have been 1980 or just prior. Unfortunately, the American club site doesn't give out this kind of history. One can only gleen it from the info provided.
LOL
I think my heaviest dog was an 80 lb male spinone. I could not lift him onto the grooming table without help (and HE was supremely unhelpful in that endeavor!) I really prefer the girls for that fact that they are smaller and more managable, but I do love the males personalities.
susie
I personally think we'll never get the IMPORTANT part of the dog under control unless we impose PERFORMANCE requirements on them before they can have conformation recognition. What's wrong with simple obedience? Gee, EVERYONE should be doing that anyway (especially in America, which doesn't have a *true* dog culture and hence, spoiled-rotten dogs which half the population despises because they think it's "just how dogs are").
"They also even when they trot look as if the butt is plowing the ground."
That's what I was trying to say. That's they way they look.
My old SHepherd back in the 60's didn't look like that at all. It makes them look like their rear end is about to collapse.
Check out the Shiloh Shepherd. They have the body shape of the old German shepherds but are oversized.
I think what you are saying about the European Shepherds is they tend to be very "sharp" in temperment. I know a lot of law-enformcent agencies prefer them to American strains.
But I liked the old Shepherd of years ago.
Hey, that dog in the front is the mean lookin' one (grin).
Is that a young Ellen Degeneres on the cover? ;)
Weave poles and a Mom who has better joints than me! My co-owner/mentor wants me to do agility with her.
susie
"She is silent on track but works close and is on the coon before they go far. Once treed she will chop all night."
HaHa.
Reminds me of standing in the woods on a pitch black night with a party of (about eight or 10)'coon hunters, some holding flashlights and others with headlamps.
One looks up and says "That's 'ol Luther, he's got a track.
Another one says "Yep, and that there's 'ol Joe."
Don't know how they could tell them apart, but they could.
After they ran my butt through the briars and bushes all night I was never so glad to hear anything as I was to hear the words "Boys, h'its treed."
[quote]Owned by scouts and Indian fighters during the late 1700s, the Black and Tan was the first coonhound to be considered a separate breed from the American Foxhound and was admitted to American Kennel Club registry in 1945.[/quote]
http://www.akc.org/breeds/black_tan_coonhound/history.cfm
It's when you get up to Excellent that things can get pretty hairy. But by THAT time, you ought to be able to send your dog ahead, work away, and otherwise save steps and tight turns.
I have heard that there is one lady who works agility from a wheelchair. Have to be a very highly trained dog though!
Me too
Maddie,(Lab/Chow) hunter par excellent, coons, woodchucks, squirrel, rabbit
Guard dog, companion and genius of the dog world!
Oh, heavens, no, I do NOT want a dog who I have to make sure is not setting up a myspace page and trolling for dates! ;)
cute tho.
susie
Everybody is different which is what makes people interesting.
I love most dogs - not very fond of Rottweilers, pit bulls, and other dogs of that type.
Really like German Shepherds, setters, hounds and other hunting dogs most.
I'll send you a private message with my friend's phone number. She raises Plotts, she inherited the business from her Daddy.
She has some awesome Plotts.
Hands down it's a beagle.
I'm not sure what you mean by this.
Just for the record, I have titled dogs in obedience and hunt tests in addition to conformation. I agree that dogs SHOULD be doing other things, however, that is available.
MOST people I know who show in conformation have dogs who are trained, so I don't see how requiring something like a lower level obedience title is going to improve the gene pool somehow. Virtually ANY dog can get a CD. So, what does that prove?
If you are interested in multi purpose dogs, by all means,use that as a gauge when looking for a puppy. Of course, be aware that a CD title does not really mean much. (OK, except when you get one you feel pretty darned good about it!)
Accept AKC for what it is. A registry. They are not the dog or breed police.
susie
Birdy little gals aint they? The are so sweet.
I've got a beautiful Llewellyn English setter mix. The Llewellyn line is strong, she could pass for pure Llewllyn.
My Lucy is goofy as can be, but man she is birdy.
Wow, ok, then that's amazing.
I have stewarded and worked agility trials, and I started training agility, but our little club died out and I never got back into it. They have a group here, and I do think when the puppy is a little older, I will have a go with her. I sure won't be able to do much hunt training down here, with the alligators!
susie
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