[jjbrouwer]

To be fair, I also hate the Krauts too. You will be familiar with that team - it is the one you claimed was certain to win the World Cup.

[jveritas]

Of course you will hate Germany as well, the second best record after Brazil.

Let us see:

Brazil won 5 World Cup. Been in the Final 7 times. Qualified for every World Cup. Hold the most number of scored goals. They had the best player in history Pele. Even now “Fat” Ronaldo as you call him has the most number of goals scored by an individual in the World Cup (15 goals).

Germany won 3 World Cup. Been in the Final 7 times.

Italy won 3 World Cup. Been in the Final 6 times.

England won 1 Word Cup. Been in the Final 1 time.