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To: Darkwolf377
The conservative version of being PC is pretending that there is no difference between a man seducing an underage girl, and a boy being seduced by an attractive adult woman.

Sorry, folks--there is a difference, any straight male knows it, and getting on one's high horse and pretending there isn't doesn't change that.

Rational thought like this based on reality cannot be tolerated.

28 posted on 07/04/2006 2:09:56 AM PDT by Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit (FReeple: Those Freepers who insist on repeating GOP talking points rather than thinking.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit

I'd hit it.


30 posted on 07/04/2006 2:19:53 AM PDT by MonroeDNA (Mohhamed drank urine from female pigs.)
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
It's obvious that people have a need to characterize reality to conform with their moral interpretations of that reality.

But it's dishonest.

When one puts forth the simple truth that there IS a difference, there is the panicked rush to characterize, to explain what the person REALLY means when he merely reports simple truths.

That shouldn't be the case on a site that supposedly talks about reality, as opposed to liberal spin.

I've worked with more teens and younger kids who've been molested or raped than I would wish anyone to have to deal with, and I know there are many, many more in my field who have dealt with MANY more than that.

Girls can be ruined for life when a man seduces or rapes them; in some ways if he makes her think she is conplicit in her own victimizing, it's worse than if she were simply raped.

I've never, ever encountered a boy who was similarly traumatized by early sex with a woman. Do such boys exist? I imagine they do. But I've never met one. I HAVE, in life, met many, MANY men who brag about such situations, In my work I've met men and boys molested and raped by men. If you met these victims, you, too, would see the simple, explicit fact that there IS a difference.

But it makes too many people uncomfortable to confront the reality that their angelic little boys might actually LIKE having sex with an attractive older woman. Boys are, rightly or wrongly, intensely nervous about their being with a woman, and when a woman shows them how it's done, it is a situation that can often make boys feel good, and a situation they think of fondly.

Am I condoning this? Hell, no. But does it happen? Yup. Is it the same as when a girl us used and traumatized? Hell, no.

And to claim otherwise is either being willfully ignorant of simple reality, or wanting to smear the messenger because you don't like the message.

31 posted on 07/04/2006 2:20:31 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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To: Einigkeit_Recht_Freiheit
P.S.

I hasten to add this, because I've seen how people here love to twist things they're uncomfortable with, instead of addressing the actual points made.

Cases like this ALL need to be looked into, and where appropriate, criminal action needs to take place. Like it or not, we have to look at EACH situation. In this particular case I have no access to court records, police records, etc. Neither does anyone here. This woman may very well deserve to ahve the book thrown at her, and be sent to jail.

Not every boy welcomes these advances, and if not, they should be respected just as every girl's wishes should be.

Personal beliefs and morals and biology all come into the equation; different female and male attitudes, etc. Someone accused me of being a libertine; I'm not. No unwanted sexual contact should be tolerated, period.

But I'm pointing out that there IS a difference by and large between a man and a girl and a woman and a boy. Anyone denying this--that a man won't BRAG about being with a woman as a boy, and a woman won't be permanently, negatively affected about being raped as a girl--ain't dealing with reality, but with what they WISH was reality.

34 posted on 07/04/2006 2:29:00 AM PDT by Darkwolf377
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