[jjbrouwer]

I made the bet a week ago. I certainly don't need your permission.

[jveritas]

Why are so aggressive toward me? it is just a game. We are expressing opinions here and not fighting. My favorite team was Brazil and today they played a horrible game and that why France won, in fact most teams in this tournament would have beaten Brazil with the awful performance they had today both players and coaches. Despite all this, I am not upset, and unlike you, I am not getting nasty nor aggressive.