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Bush Administration Erases U.S. Borders With Mexico and Canada
HumanEventsOnline ^ | 06/28/2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/29/2006 6:06:13 AM PDT by NapkinUser

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To: texastoo
Thanks for the post.

You're welcome. It looks like the House will block the Totalization deal, but I am not sure if they can prevail if the Senate doesn't go along...which it looks like the RINOs have locked up effective control in collaboration with the RATS.

101 posted on 06/29/2006 8:36:48 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Kenny Bunk
The government is allowed to have working groups, for sure

I don't see this as true. Law and policy are supposed to come from the citizens, not from an appointed group of international businessmen and foreign government agents. This gets completely away from the constitutional guarantee of self government and individual rights.

You notice the SPP is NOT a citizen led initiative. And private citizens are NOT invited to participate or see the findings. NGOs, transnational corporations, foreign government agents, they are the ones running the show.
102 posted on 06/29/2006 8:37:25 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: conservativecorner

If you're going to slam me, at least include me in the TO section.....

Hurry up and get your resume to me...

It's almost down to janitorial jobs in the new NAU....


103 posted on 06/29/2006 8:37:35 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Foreman of the NAU)
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To: verity
The 'security perimeter' goes AROUND the north American continent. It doesn't go between Canada/US or Mexico/US.
104 posted on 06/29/2006 8:38:55 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: saganite
Don't try to use logic

If you've seen logic in his posts, then I have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you.
105 posted on 06/29/2006 8:39:56 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: MikefromOhio

We thought you were busy working on your driveway, yet here you are!


106 posted on 06/29/2006 8:41:16 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Law and policy are supposed to come from the citizens, not from an appointed group of international businessmen and foreign government agents.

Law comes from the legislative and policy comes from the executive. That is our constitutional system. Yours appears to be inspired by American Idol.

107 posted on 06/29/2006 8:46:14 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Paul Ross

Has the totalization agreement been placed before congress? I know congress has 60 working days to reject it once the WH releases it to them.


108 posted on 06/29/2006 8:48:58 AM PDT by texastoo ("trash the treaties")
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To: Vmama

The U.S. Department of Agriculture is conducting research on crop pests in my home state of Illinois? To the barricades!


110 posted on 06/29/2006 8:59:52 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer

These are the same Americans that sided with the British a few hundred years ago...


111 posted on 06/29/2006 9:04:17 AM PDT by Iscool (I spent MOST of my MONEY on cold beer and hot women...The REST, I just wasted ...)
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To: Paul Ross; MikefromOhio
In re "Totalization," etc.

In the long term, responsible American leadership knows that it is we who must somehow develop Mexico. "Develop," actually means "Save." And if we can figure it out, we'll be saving two countries: theirs, and ours.

Somehow, we have to get the phenomenal resources of these phenomenally corrupt Mexican clymers into international play before someone else does. (For example, the CHICOM getting their nose into OPEC through Venezuela and Colombia.) Since Mexico is already our major trading partner, we certainly ought to have a head start there.

However, if a Marxist clymer takes over, Mexico could implode in a heartbeat and then we'll have some really interesting problems. Illegal immigration? You ain't seen nothing yet!

The exploding population South of the Border combined with a shocking lack of physical ... political ... and mental ... infrastructure means that a North American Union ... of some sort ... is necessary. It's the secrecy about possible political union and exactly what sort of North American Union we'll end with that are giving people a problem.

And rightly so. We have one hell of a lot more to lose than the Mexicans. But, when it comes to this "sovereignty," thing, we have to remember that the Mexicans, as corrupt and dangerous as they are to us, are also a sovereign nation. The fact that Mexico is illegally transferring 20% of it's population to us in a government-sponsored migration is no help. In effect, they have taken over our immigration policy.

It's change. Is it for the better or for the worse? It's easy to see that closer ties with Mexico are better ... indeed necessary ... for Mexico. It's not so easy for people to see how change ... even inevitable change ... can be bettter for us.

112 posted on 06/29/2006 9:08:55 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Vote Fraud: The Democrats' Secret Weapon .... Well, secret to the RNC, anyway.)
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To: Iscool
These are the same Americans that sided with the British a few hundred years ago....

LOL. While others were wailing about the coming Confederation of States.

113 posted on 06/29/2006 9:10:53 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: NapkinUser

Thanks for the post. I see the usual free-traitor chihuahua brigade has already arrived to harass and bite at everyone's ankles that wants to have a reasonable discourse on this subject. If you ignore their responses, watch and they'll start flinging insults between themselves. They want to harass and squelch any such discussion and debate about the subject, whether it's a valid, serious concern or not. They don't even want the issue discussed for fear it may impact their finances adversely. Their primary allegiance lies with the almighty dollar. This kind would do business with Iran, Syria, and North Korea if they thought there was a dollar profit to be gained.


114 posted on 06/29/2006 9:23:25 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: OB1kNOb

This is an internet bulletin board, not a bridge club. Don't be such a baby.


115 posted on 06/29/2006 9:25:38 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: AmericaUnited
I really do think Corsi is becoming a full blown kook. Either that or he is an another intentional shameless deceiver who just manufactures "red-meat" and then has a following of non-thinkers who start barking at the moon at every taste.

How about refuting the article?

116 posted on 06/29/2006 9:27:30 AM PDT by jmc813 (The best mathematical equation I have ever seen: 1 cross + 3 nails= 4 given.)
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To: 1rudeboy

No whining from me. Just an observation of the Jerry Springer School of Debate graduates that drag this great FR forum of discussion down into the gutter.


117 posted on 06/29/2006 9:29:27 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: OB1kNOb

Is that the same school that teaches folks to use terms like "free-traitor chihuahua brigade?"


118 posted on 06/29/2006 9:32:04 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy
Law comes from the legislative and policy comes from the executive.

B'zzzt. False.

Law sets policy.

You demonstrate here how confused is your view of our governmental structures and process. Your misunderstanding could be cured by taking elementary civics.

The Executive branch executes the policy prescribed by the laws issuing from the Legislative Branch. It is not the prerogative of the Executive to change policies already set in law. It must go hat in hand to Congress and recommend a change.

Why do you think that the Statue of Freedom is on top of the Capitol Rotunda? Mere decoration? No. And it is not meant for empty boastful symbolism...but a reminder of where the actual People's house is, and where self-rule, and hence Freedom, has its seat.

The Executive may be given a circumscribed free hand, i.e., within limits, to craft policy or policies in pursuance of that implementation of the pre-existing legislative edicts...but it is ultimately a definitive function of the legislature to set policy and reign in any abuse of the delegation of its authority.

The legislative act is not a mere rubber stamp approval of the executive.


119 posted on 06/29/2006 9:34:30 AM PDT by Paul Ross (We cannot be for lawful ordinances and for an alien conspiracy at one and the same moment.-Cicero)
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To: Vmama
The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America: Progress

Our governments renew their commitment to trilateral cooperation on clean energy technologies, conservation, and market facilitation as a means to meeting our shared goals of energy security and sustainable development.
120 posted on 06/29/2006 9:39:34 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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