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Is Microsoft about to release a Windows "kill switch"?
ZDNet ^ | 27 June 2006 | Ed Bott

Posted on 06/27/2006 1:34:59 PM PDT by Fractal Trader

Two weeks ago, I wrote about my serious objections to Microsoft’s latest salvo in the war against unauthorized copies of Windows. Two Windows Genuine Advantage components are being pushed onto users’ machines with insufficient notification and inadequate quality control, and the result is a big mess. (For details, see Microsoft presses the Stupid button.)

Guess what? WGA might be on the verge of getting even messier. In fact, one report claims WGA is about to become a Windows “kill switch” – and when I asked Microsoft for an on-the-record response, they refused to deny it.

[SNIP]

Currently, no one at Microsoft is blogging about this fiasco. No executive has been quoted on the record about it. There are very few technical details available, and those that have been published are being tumbled through the spin machine and spit out as press releases.

If Microsoft really does plan to turn WGA into a kill switch in September, be prepared for an enormous backlash.

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TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: killswitch; lowqualitycrap; microsoft; vista; windows; windowsvista
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1 posted on 06/27/2006 1:35:02 PM PDT by Fractal Trader
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To: Fractal Trader

Microsoft had better take it easy, or Google (or someone else) will develop an online operating system that bypasses the need for Windows alltogether.


2 posted on 06/27/2006 1:40:02 PM PDT by keithtoo (The GOP is fortunate that the Dim's are even more spineless and disorganized.)
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To: Fractal Trader
I have been nagged about WGA every time I boot up and have been igoring it.
This may be the final push I need to go all Linux (Two laptops and four desktops). I own four legal Windows licences, but two of my desktops are strictly "emergency backups" for when the "recovered from a serious error" message starts popping up...
3 posted on 06/27/2006 1:42:24 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Fractal Trader

bump


4 posted on 06/27/2006 1:43:02 PM PDT by VOA
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To: keithtoo

Build a better mousetrap...


5 posted on 06/27/2006 1:48:54 PM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll. 17,427+ snide replies and counting!)
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To: Publius6961

I am using Linux totally for web browsing ... still some issues with multi-media aspects of course.


6 posted on 06/27/2006 1:49:32 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

7 posted on 06/27/2006 1:51:03 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Fractal Trader
Teh biiger they are, the harder they fall. Still rings true.

MS could create quite a Tsunami if/when it goes down.

prisoner6

8 posted on 06/27/2006 1:53:06 PM PDT by prisoner6 (Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the Left fall out.)
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To: Fractal Trader; ShadowAce
"If Microsoft really does plan to turn WGA into a kill switch in September, be prepared for an enormous backlash."

Any bets on wow long it will take for someone to find an exploit if a kill switch does go into WGA? I can imagine a worm that will disable every Windows machine with WGA, which is most of them now.

9 posted on 06/27/2006 1:55:51 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
still some issues with multi-media aspects of course.

What issues are you having?

10 posted on 06/27/2006 1:57:19 PM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: Fractal Trader

pull the trigger microsoft. i double dog dare you.


11 posted on 06/27/2006 2:03:09 PM PDT by postaldave (McCain & Bush, you traitorous !#!$!!s. you two are no different then ted kennedy.)
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To: Fractal Trader; N3WBI3; Ernest_at_the_Beach; ShadowAce

I'm gonna seriesly look into running Linux on my older computers after MS ends its support for Win 98 next month.


12 posted on 06/27/2006 2:04:49 PM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: Fractal Trader
Two Windows Genuine Advantage components are being pushed onto users’ machines with insufficient notification and inadequate quality control, and the result is a big mess.

Windows is the only product that people think is ok to steal

13 posted on 06/27/2006 2:10:48 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Publius6961
I have been nagged about WGA every time I boot up and have been igoring it.

Yeah, me too.
I ignored it for weeks, then they sent several other upgrades.
I elected' Custom' and unclicked the WGA upgrade.
All went well.
The two upgrades involved are KB892130, KB905474 ( that's my deduction, might be wrong)

14 posted on 06/27/2006 2:11:56 PM PDT by Vinnie
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Windows is the only product that people think is ok to steal

I told you a million times, don't exaggerate!

Music is by far the most stolen item.

15 posted on 06/27/2006 2:12:44 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Fractal Trader

WGA is already a kill switch if it decides to phone home,
and can't, and you left the machine unattended (so it
better not be some mission-critical, and/or life-safety
application).

The next shoe to drop is subscription-based licensing,
where WGA is a time bomb that explodes if you don't send
your annual tribute to Redmond.

MS is panicked, and like the RIAA, has yet to learn that:
1. you don't solve the piracy problem by punishing
the honest customers, and
2. even if you succeed in killing unauthorized copies,
that will NOT turn the crooks into paying customers.
DRM is lose-lose.

Win2K is the last MS OS that will ever be run in this
household. One of the machines still on the now-dangerous
Win98SE will be upgraded to Linux.


16 posted on 06/27/2006 2:13:00 PM PDT by Boundless
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To: Vinnie
The two upgrades involved are KB892130, KB905474 ( that's my deduction, might be wrong)

Knowing the way Microshaft works, they probably have WGA embedded in one of those two updates.

17 posted on 06/27/2006 2:14:42 PM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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To: Publius6961
I have been nagged about WGA every time I boot up and have been igoring it.

if you want to know how to remove it freepmail me....

18 posted on 06/27/2006 2:14:57 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Fractal Trader

If MS messes with my computer, I'll never, ever use a Microsoft OS again. And that's a promise.


19 posted on 06/27/2006 2:15:18 PM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: Fractal Trader

WGA is stupid, not necessarily in concept (though I'm on the fence about that one) but certainly in implementation. Deploying it before fixing the implementation, and failing to consider the potential ramifications of WGA the way it works now, was stupid on MS's part.

However, it was a fully voluntary install. I don't really feel sorry for anyone who's been hassled by it, as no one forced them to install it. Again - MS should have made its purpose and operation very clear, and not included it with critical security updates. However, no matter what OS or web browser one uses, if you blindly install downloads without knowing what they do, you take the risk yourself that they may not be something you want.

I chose not to install WGA on any machine for which I'm responsible, even though they're all verifiably software-legal. None has ever asked to download or install it again, and none has had any ill effects or failed to get other MS updates because of it.


20 posted on 06/27/2006 2:25:17 PM PDT by Turbopilot (iumop ap!sdn w,I 'aw dlaH)
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