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Controversy Erupts Over NASCO and the NAFTA Super-Highway
Human Events Online ^ | Jun 26, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/26/2006 7:16:57 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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A public-private partnership is exactly what it says it is. It is a business partnership with the goal of making a profit and NOT providing a service like government. A formal business agreement or contract seals the partnership. The business form of partnership provides the most flexibility for operating business as it can be expanded and more partners can be added in the future. Secondly, there are public and private partners. The public partners are all levels of government, from local, to county, state, regional and federal as well as foreign and international, such as the United Nations. The private partners include corporations - those with the deepest pockets and non-governmental organizations like Planned Parenthood, The nature Conservancy, Sierra Club, Red Cross, or the William Jefferson Clinton Foundation. Examples of public-private partnerships include sewer systems, power plants, water facilities, charter schools, etc.,

Because all levels of government are broke, the fact that business comes in to "help" is really a transfer of the responsibilities that government use to provide for its citizens as a service to corporations. The corporations want to make a profit. The little lady who receives a 30% increase in her sewer or water bill is not going to understand that the sewer system that used to belong to the city where she lives has now been transferred into a business arrangement that still includes the City as a partner but also has new financial resources with the corporate partner. Who has the real power? Whoever has the money. All across the country and globe, at every level of government, assets are being transferred from government and the citizenry to a new business arrangement in which the goal is a profit.

--Joan Veon

1 posted on 06/26/2006 7:17:02 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; Czar; ...
The NASCO corridor is the product of "free trade".

A cautionary note about the end game of "free trade":

A continual process of war, revolution, and terrorism [creative destruction], removing major impediments for the global establishment of a unique and unified America/British capitalism based on the political, economic and social precepts of Fabian Socialism. Free trade requires the complete destruction of national sovereignty and is a cornerstone of the Fabian Socialism. In the end, it is an international form of socialism that will control all the economic, political, and social activities of this planet. The United Nations and its many agencies are assisting in helping to establish this reality. Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are all integral parts of the same process

--The Permanent Revolution
Terry Hayfield
2 posted on 06/26/2006 7:21:06 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Why do we need this massive system in the middle of the country when the vast majority of the people live on the coast? Who made the decision to "abandon" Long Beach in favor of a new improved super port in Mexico, a nation that hates us?

What do these "business people" know that we dont about the future direction of our country?


3 posted on 06/26/2006 7:28:35 AM PDT by winodog (Its the constitution, dummy.)
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To: hedgetrimmer

The deep question is how do you make Mexico a first class country. This is something that Vincente Fox has brought up frequently recently.

The trouble is that no one quite sees that the very best thing we could do for Mexico is to send their now well trained citizens home.

Suddenly Mexico would have a skilled workforce who knew something about how a world class country worked.

Think these folk would propel a great leap forward for Mexico?

I do.

Basically the ruling class in Mexico is preditory to its own detriment and will not change of its own volition--even if those changes were in its own interest. But it can be forced to change.

The Mexicans in the USA have had the picture of what a well run country looks like tatooed on the back of their eyeballs. And they'll have an idea of how to get there. Send them back to Mexico and they'll get a revolution in Mexico that'll do that country some good.

The shock troops for that would be the 12 million repatriated Mexican citizens. Having seen what a well run country looks like they would not want to be stuffed back in the old wineskin.

There's something more.

I follow water desalination research pretty closely. While water desalination costs have dropped to about a third of what they were 15 years ago--the rate at which prices will drop over the next seven years will accelerate considerably. imo in even the next five years we will see desalination costs drop to 1/10th of today's costs. Or even faster than the fall the 3/4 fall that the LLNL researchers suggest.
http://www.physorg.com/news67262683.html
Basically, the foundations are being laid today to make it economically feasable to to turn all the world's deserts green. (The proper way to look at this is to recall that cars, tv's and computers were at first rich men's toys but when prices came down they changed the world. Desalinised water is still relatively speaking -- a rich man's toy. But when the price drops sufficiently--desalinised water will change the world--because most deserts are right beside the ocean. Pumping the water 1000 miles inland will require that the scientists collapse the cost cracking out hydrogen from water. I think that this nut will be cracked sooner than desalination.)

imho cheap desalinised water will do for the republicans (if they can get this on their agenda or even the democrats if the pubbies drop the ball) what the great dam building projects & the tva of the 1930's & 40's did for democrats because 1/3 of the US is deserts. We would increase the habitable size of the USA by 1/3.

Dirt cheap desalinised water will also do things like make it possible to double the habitable size of Mexico. Cheap water is no magic bullet but it will give the Mexican Nationalists a way to dream while the Mexican people do the real work.

And desalinated water in tandem with repatriation of now skilled Mexican citizens would propel Mexico into being a world class country.

Oh and one last thing. Mexico will need a stronger dose of of the Peruvian Hernando Desoto ideas. Basically DeSoto asked the question why are some countries poor and some questions rich. His answers are being implimented successfully in countries around the world. http://www.ild.org.pe/home.htm

Hernando de Soto's organization was invited to Mexico and did some work on the question. He says that only 6 percent of Mexican enterprises are legal, the rest are informal. So how do you reverse that so that only 6% of the economy is informal -- as is the case the USA. De Soto would provide the ideas around which the 12 million american trained Mexican returnees could rally.

There is a winner here. The winner is Mexico.

The US profits too by having a prosperous politically stable country with a broad middle class to the south as we do to the north.


4 posted on 06/26/2006 7:29:07 AM PDT by ckilmer
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We find that government offices such as the Security and Prosperity Partnership working groups being organized within the U.S. Department of Commerce are signing trilateral memoranda of understanding and other agreements with Mexico and Canada consistent with the goal of fulfilling the CFR’s dream to bring about a North American Union by 2010.

Does anyone know under what legal authority this is happening? What bills passed by congress and signed into law provide the funding for this? What congressional committees have oversight?
5 posted on 06/26/2006 7:30:33 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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Does anyone know under what legal authority this is happening?

The Security and Prosperity Partnership was created by Executive Order. The president instructs federal government agencies to implement it, and they do so out of existing budgets. Congress has no authority, unless it is to rescind the EO.
6 posted on 06/26/2006 7:33:24 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't the Executive branch limited to implementing and enforcing laws passed by Congress? The President can send out all the EOs he wants, but without a specific law giving him the authority, especially with regards to expenditures of tax dollars, does he really have the legal right?

Also, isn't this subject to FOIA? (Where's Judicial Watch when you need them?)
7 posted on 06/26/2006 7:44:03 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
A question.

If I had the chance to inform an uninformed about what is going on with the North America Union BS. If I could only offer them one article to see what's happening, what would that article be? Remember, I would only get one shot...one article.

8 posted on 06/26/2006 7:45:14 AM PDT by processing please hold (If you can't stand behind our military, stand in front of them.)
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If I could only offer them one article to see what's happening, what would that article be?

What do you all suggest?
9 posted on 06/26/2006 7:52:43 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Do you have the E.O. number? I'd like to read it.


10 posted on 06/26/2006 8:00:28 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: ckilmer

"The US profits too by having a prosperous politically stable country with a broad middle class to the south as we do to the north."

How will these ideas of yours solve the #1 problem of Mexico, which is massive corruption?

Corruption, payoffs, etc.


11 posted on 06/26/2006 8:02:48 AM PDT by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: hedgetrimmer
"Congress has no authority"

Sure they do. They have the authority to pass the North American Cooperative Security Act.

12 posted on 06/26/2006 8:03:19 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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How will these ideas of yours solve the #1 problem of Mexico, which is massive corruption?

I would include in that question what is to be done with the fact that much of Northern Mexico is controlled by drug cartels (the ones for which beheadings are now standard operating procedure)?
13 posted on 06/26/2006 8:06:25 AM PDT by rottndog (WOOF!!!!--Keep your "compassion" away from my wallet!)
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To: rottndog

Rechecking the SPP, and its not formed from an EO but a trilateral agreement with Canada and Mexico. It is linked to the Department of Commerce. Through them, you can request documents via FOIA.

How to File a FOIA Request
A FOIA request can be made for any agency record that is not publicly available. Describe as best as possible the records you are requesting. In your description include information such as the date and place the records were created, the file descriptions, subject matter, persons involved, and other pertinent details that will help identify the records. Please be aware that the FOIA does not require agencies to answer questions, or to create records to respond to a request.

Include a mailing address and a daytime telephone number so we can contact you if necessary. When submitting your request by mail, please mark the envelope "FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT REQUEST."

Note: Keep a copy of your request. You may need to refer to it in further correspondence with the agency.

Office of the Secretary
Bobbie Parsons
Immediate Office of the Secretary
Office of Management and Organization
U.S. Department of Commerce
14th and Constitution Avenue N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20230
Phone: 202-482-3707
Fax: 202-219-8979
BParsons@doc.gov

Sample FOIA Request Letter
Date

Freedom of Information Act Request

Agency Head or FOIA Officer

Name of agency or agency component

Address (see discussion above on whom to contact

Dear __________:

Under the Freedom of Information Act, 5 U.S.C. § 552, I am requesting copies of [identify the records as clearly and specifically as possible].

If there are any fees for searching or copying the records, please let me know before you fill my request. [Or, please supply the records without informing me of the cost if the fees do not exceed $______, which I agree to pay.]

If you deny all or any part of this request, please cite each specific exemption to think justify your withholding of information. Notify me of appeal procedures available under the law. Optional: If you have any questions about handling this request, you may telephone me at ___________ (home phone) or at ___________ (office phone).

Sincerely,


Name

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http://www.osec.doc.gov/omo/FOIA/foiarequest.htm


14 posted on 06/26/2006 8:08:33 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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It's a very large subject that can't be wrapped into one article. For starters, I'd go to an article posted here on the Free Republic in 1999, titled:
"Shadow Government of the United States"
Shadow Gov.
Lots of good info. Build your knowledge base from there.

 

15 posted on 06/26/2006 8:10:05 AM PDT by Smartass (Believe in God - And forgive us our trash baskets as we forgive those who put trash in our baskets)
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To: antisocial

Masssive corruption is what you get when everything is off the books. Hernando de Soto estimated that 94% of Mexico's economy is informal or off the books. Hernando de soto would put everything back on the books. Its harder to cook the books.

So you wouldn't stop the corruption but you would scale it back considerably.


16 posted on 06/26/2006 8:10:21 AM PDT by ckilmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Thanks for the ping and keeping us up to date on the latest.


17 posted on 06/26/2006 8:11:07 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: pbrown
If I had the chance to inform an uninformed about what is going on with the North America Union BS. If I could only offer them one article to see what's happening, what would that article be?

I would search the SPP website, myself. You could use its own words to make your point without sounding like a nutter.

18 posted on 06/26/2006 8:12:21 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: hedgetrimmer
In the Twentieth Century, a prominent statesman named Benito Mussolini had a name for public-private partnerships: Fascism. By definition, that's private ownership with government control.

It's worth keeping in mind that Hitler was a National Socialist (Nazi), not a Fascist. The 1920 platform of the National Socialist Party was a typical socialist platform. There was no room for private ownership in it. Mussolini rejected pure socialism, wanting to combine the efficiency of private ownership with the egalitarianism of government control. The results were disastrous. Italy is still stuck with the remnants of Fascism, with certain industries largely being under the control of particular political parties, who traditionally get certain ministries, no matter who forms a government.

19 posted on 06/26/2006 8:12:54 AM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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They have the authority to pass the North American Cooperative Security Act.

Do they? The have the authority to secure Canada and Mexico with our tax dollars? To secure Mexico's southern border with our tax dollars?
20 posted on 06/26/2006 8:12:58 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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