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Fanny Kaplan (Unsuccessfull Assassin of Lenin, Aug 30, 1918)
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Posted on 06/20/2006 11:43:01 AM PDT by sergey1973

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Also, let's recall the 1944 assassination attempt on Hitler by Claus fon Stauffenberg et al. ? The plotters where Wehrmaht officers who initially were faithful Nazis, but realizing that the war was futile, wanted to finish Hitler off. Whatever their motives where, the end result could have been earlier end of WWII and literally millions of lives saved.

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21 posted on 06/20/2006 4:13:28 PM PDT by sergey1973
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There's one [to me] critical difference. At the time of the 20th July Plot, Hitler was the de jure, as well as de facto, dictator of Germany, Germany was losing the Second World War, big time. And the generals were trying to save their country from the consequences of leaving Hitler in power.

At the time Kaplan shot Lenin, he may have been de facto dictator of the Bolshevik Party, but he was not the de jure, or de facto dictator of Russia (he still had the Politburo, including people who had disagreed with him in the past on it [Trotsky, Bukharin, Kamanev, Zinoviev] to deal with). And again, not to beat a dead horse, Kaplan didn't shoot Lenin to spare Russia from Marxist rule. She shot him because she wanted to see Russia under the Social Revolutionaries' concept of Marxist rule - and Lenin was blocking that happening.
22 posted on 06/20/2006 4:38:26 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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"She became a political revolutionary at an early age and joined a socialist group, the Socialist Revolutionaries. In 1906, Kaplan participated in an attempted assassination of a government official."

She was a socialist, criminal, attempted murderess. Despite your opinion of her target(s), she was nothing more than a common criminal. Heroine? Bullshit.


23 posted on 06/20/2006 5:03:00 PM PDT by gate2wire
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Well put. My view is, if the enemies wants to fight among themselves, sell them the rope. :')


24 posted on 06/20/2006 8:28:50 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Monday, June 19, 2006.)
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BookMark for Sidney Reilley posts


25 posted on 06/21/2006 2:40:56 AM PDT by Khurkris (Don't blame me. I speak a different language....American english.)
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Kaplan was no hero. None of them were. They only advocated slightly different timeline and approaches towards the same end. “The first conspicuous act of government-ordered reprisals on a large scale without regard for individual guilt came after the assassination of Michael Uritzky and the attempt on Lenin’s life on August 30 [by Kaplan]. These events were not in themselves apt to justify measures against the bourgeoisie, for the two assassins, Kenigiesser and Fania Kaplan, were both members of the Social Revolutionary party and therefore not “bourgeois.” [...] Five hundred hostages were shot in reprisal in Petrograd alone by order of Zinoviev, the head of the local soviet. On September 5, the people’s commissars officially legalized the red terror...” (Landauer, European Socialism: A History of Ideas and Movements).


26 posted on 04/01/2017 7:43:38 AM PDT by Kleio
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