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North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court
Human Events Online ^ | Jun 19, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/19/2006 7:37:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

The Bush Administration is pushing to create a North American Union out of the work on-going in the Department of Commerce under the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America in the NAFTA office headed by Geri Word. A key part of the plan is to expand the NAFTA tribunals into a North American Union court system that would have supremacy over all U.S. law, even over the U.S. Supreme Court, in any matter related to the trilateral political and economic integration of the United States, Canada and Mexico.

Right now, Chapter 11 of the NAFTA agreement allows a private NAFTA foreign investor to sue the U.S. government if the investor believes a state or federal law damages the investor’s NAFTA business.

Under Chapter 11, NAFTA establishes a tribunal that conducts a behind closed-doors “trial” to decide the case according to the legal principals established by either the World Bank’s International Centre for the Settlement of Investment Disputes or the UN’s Commission for International Trade Law. If the decision is adverse to the U.S., the NAFTA tribunal can impose its decision as final, trumping U.S. law, even as decided by the U.S. Supreme Court. U.S. laws can be effectively overturned and the NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunal can impose millions or billions of dollars in fines on the U.S. government, to be paid ultimately by the U.S. taxpayer.

On Aug. 9, 2005, a three-member NAFTA tribunal dismissed a $970 million claim filed by Methanex Corp., a Canadian methanol producer challenging California laws that regulate against the gasoline additive MTBE. The additive MTBE was introduced into gasoline to reduce air pollution from motor vehicle emissions. California regulations restricted the use of MTBE after the additive was found to contaminate drinking water and produce a health hazard. Had the case been decided differently, California’s MTBE regulations would have been overturned and U.S. taxpayers forced to pay Methanex millions in damages.

While this case was decided favorably to U.S. laws, we can rest assured that sooner or later a U.S. law will be overruled by the NAFTA Chapter 11 adjudicative procedure, as long as the determinant law adjudicated by the NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunals continues to derive from World Court or UN law. Once a North American Union court structure is in place can almost certainly predict that a 2nd Amendment challenge to the right to bear arms is as inevitable under a North American Union court structure as is a challenge to our 1st Amendment free speech laws. Citizens of both Canada and Mexico cannot freely own firearms. Nor can Canadians or Mexicans speak out freely without worrying about “hate crimes” legislation or other political restrictions on what they may choose to say.

Like it or not, NAFTA Chapter 11 tribunals already empower foreign NAFTA investors and corporations to challenge the sovereignty of U.S. law in the United States. Sen. John Kerry (D.-Mass.) has been quoted as saying, “When we debated NAFTA, not a single word was uttered in discussing Chapter 11. Why? Because we didn’t know how this provision would play out. No one really knew just how high the stakes would get.” Again, we have abundant proof that Congress is unbelievably lax when it comes to something as fundamental as reading or understanding the complex laws our elected legislators typically pass.

Under the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) plan expressed in May 2005 for building NAFTA into a North American Union, the stakes are about to get even higher. A task force report titled “Building a North American Community” was written to provide a blueprint for the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America agreement signed by President Bush in his meeting with President Fox and Canada’s then-Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Tex., on March 23, 2005.

The CFR plan clearly calls for the establishment of a “permanent tribunal for North American dispute resolution” as part of the new regional North American Union (NAU) governmental structure that is proposed to go into place in 2010. As the CFR report details on page 22:

The current NAFTA dispute-resolution process is founded on ad hoc panels that are not capable of building institutional memory or establishing precedent, may be subject to conflicts of interest, and are appointed by authorities who may have an incentive to delay a given proceeding. As demonstrated by the efficiency of the World Trade Organization (WTO) appeal process, a permanent tribunal would likely encourage faster, more consistent and more predictable resolution of disputes. In addition, there is a need to review the workings of NAFTA’s dispute-settlement mechanism to make it more efficient, transparent, and effective.

Robert Pastor of American University, the vice chairman of the CFR task force report, provided much of the intellectual justification for the formation of the North American Union. He has repeatedly argued for the creation of a North American Union “Permanent Tribunal on Trade and Investment.” Pastor understands that a “permanent court would permit the accumulation of precedent and lay the groundwork for North American business law.” Notice, Pastor says nothing about U.S. business law or the U.S. Supreme Court. In the view of the globalists pushing toward the formation of the North American Union, the U.S. is a partisan nation-state whose limitations of economic protectionism and provincial self-interest are outdated and as such must be transcended, even if the price involves sacrificing U.S. national sovereignty.

When it comes to the question of illegal immigrants, Pastor’s solution is to erase our borders with Mexico and Canada so we can issue North American Union passports to all citizens. In his testimony to the Subcommittee on the Western Hemisphere of the U.S. Senate Foreign Relations Committee on June 9, 2005, Pastor made this exact argument: “Instead of stopping North Americans on the borders, we ought to provide them with a secure, biometric Border Pass that would ease transit across the border like an E-Z pass permits our cars to speed though toll booths.”

Even Pastor worries about the potential for North American Unions to overturn U.S. laws that he likes. Regarding environmental laws, Pastor’s testimony to the Trilateral Commission in November 2002 was clear on this point: “Some narrowing or clarification of the scope of Chapter 11 panels on foreign investment is also needed to permit the erosion of environmental rules.” Evidently it did not occur to Pastor that the way to achieve the protection he sought was to leave the sovereignty of U.S. and the supremacy of the U.S. Supreme Court intact.

The executive branch under the Bush Administration is quietly putting in place a behind-the-scenes trilateral regulatory scheme, evidently without any direct congressional input, that should provide the rules by which any NAFTA or NAU court would examine when adjudicating NAU trade disputes. The June 2005 report by the SPP working groups organized in the U.S. Department of Commerce, clearly states the goal:

We will develop a trilateral Regulatory Cooperative Framework by 2007 to support and enhance existing, as well as encourage new cooperation among regulators, including at the outset of the regulatory process.

We wonder if the Bush Administration intends to present the Trilateral Regulatory Cooperative Framework now being constructed by SPP.gov to Congress for review in 2007, or will the administration simply continue along the path of knitting together the new NAU regional governmental structure behind closed doors by executive fiat? Ms. Word affirms that the membership of the various SPP working group committees has not been published. Nor have the many memorandums of understanding and other trilateral agreements created by these SPP working groups been published, not even on the Internet.


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To: 1rudeboy
Did you make her look foolish by using the Alinsky Method?
261 posted on 06/19/2006 6:07:39 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Smartass

Thanks for the pings; I won't be able to catch up tonight, and probably for the next week. I will do so as soon as possible.


262 posted on 06/19/2006 6:35:03 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: hedgetrimmer; Smartass

btw, I see this article's been moved to "chat."

I'm not surprised.


263 posted on 06/19/2006 6:36:14 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Sandy

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

That was exactly what I was hoping for: (1) COnfirmation that others have thought this might be an issue that I know are a lot smarter than I am; and (2) that the Supreme Court has interpreted that clasue in a rational sort of way.

This means for me tht no matter what the various agreements are between governments, they are not supposed to circumvent the Constitution.

Now, lets keep an eye out to see that it remans that way.

I very much appreciate your response.


264 posted on 06/19/2006 9:37:12 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Comstock1

Yes, and remember NAFTA is not even a treaty....


265 posted on 06/19/2006 9:54:11 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: hedgetrimmer

Such traitorous goals, actions . . . skullduggery . . .

Some evil, traitorous folks deserve to have their . . . Dillbo Klintoon 'brains' . . .

prepared like chicken for shredded chicken enchiladas.


266 posted on 06/19/2006 10:11:36 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Again, we have abundant proof that Congress is unbelievably lax when it comes to something as fundamental as reading or understanding the complex laws our elected legislators typically pass.
Nothing new there.
267 posted on 06/20/2006 12:40:59 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: hedgetrimmer
Especially NOT on the internet.
Nothing to see here folks...move along.
268 posted on 06/20/2006 12:44:27 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Tancredo confronts 'super-state' effort

Demands full disclosure of White House work with Mexico, Canada

Responding to a WorldNetDaily report, Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., is demanding the Bush administration fully disclose the activities of an office implementing a trilateral agreement with Mexico and Canada that apparently could lead to a North American union, despite having no authorization from Congress.

As WND reported, the White House has established working groups, under the North American Free Trade Agreement office in the Department of Commerce, to implement the Security and Prosperity Partnership, or SPP, signed by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas, March 23, 2005.

The groups, however, have no authorization from Congress and have not disclosed the results of their work despite two years of massive effort within the executive branches of the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

Tancredo wants to know the membership of the SPP groups along with their various trilateral memoranda of understanding and other agreements reached with counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

Tancredo's decision has been endorsed by Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project.

"It's time for the Bush administration to come clean," Gilchrist told WND. "If President Bush's agenda is to establish a new North American union government to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, then the president has an obligation to tell this to the American people directly. The American public has a right to know."

Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

WND can find no specific congressional legislation authorizing the SPP working groups nor any congressional committees taking charge of oversight.

Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.
269 posted on 06/20/2006 7:08:52 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; Czar; ...
See post # 269

Would it help for as many people as possible to file FOIA requests? What can we do to help?
270 posted on 06/20/2006 7:11:31 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Tancredo's decision has been endorsed by Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project.

Thanks for the ping. Now that's an interesting coalition developing. Shining the spotlight into the dark corners of political manipulations to see what scurries for cover is always good.

271 posted on 06/20/2006 7:34:22 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We are being sold out and I dont have a fix for it at the moment.


272 posted on 06/20/2006 7:37:07 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero » with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mr. Lucky; nopardons; hedgetrimmer
Things like this used to be the talk of conspiracy theorists and fringe groups, but it seems there is some definite truth to all of this, and it's very disturbing.

There is cause for alarm here, boys and girls. The question is, as always, "How much alarm?" The truth of the matter (great phrase) is that we seem to have caught the government trying to slip (another?) one by us under the radar. It's a big one, but now it's more out in the open than it was.

If our Euro-Cousins are any guide, their governments tried to keep the public more or less out until they had this EU thing all wrapped up and packaged for those voting in nation-by-nation referenda. We are a long way from that and have a whole 'nother thing to keep our eye on. For starters, unlike Euros, we have a whole 'States' Rights' issue to help shield us from anything truly nutsoid.

But folks, IMHO, you should take this very seriously, and not 'dis' those who take it more seriously than you might think appropriate. (Whole lotta dat goin' on!)

Personally, I take this so seriously, that I am willing to forgive a bit of panic on the part of others and hear them out. Still learning.

273 posted on 06/20/2006 7:46:57 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Don't be paranoid ...just make sure ain't someone out to get us.)
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To: Smartass; nicmarlo; ATOMIC_PUNK; Czar; texastoo; WestCoastGal; who knows what evil?

Yo os pingo


274 posted on 06/20/2006 7:50:00 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Don't be paranoid ...just make sure ain't someone out to get us.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
But folks, IMHO, you should take this very seriously, and not 'dis' those who take it more seriously than you might think appropriate.

That might be easier if those who take it so seriously weren't such fools.

275 posted on 06/20/2006 7:50:14 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: hedgetrimmer

My own conspiracy take is:

The elites of the US know that all these NAFTA ports and highways are to facilitate more low priced Chinese/Asian imports and will make our trade deficits much worse. This will make the dollar crash. Iran, Russia, Europeans will bring in a gold/oil standard currency to replace the USD as the world's most trusted currency. Gold will be at $3000/ounce to enable this. Oil will be $130/barrel

Our elites are heavy investors in gold right now. They are the ultimate reptilian gold bugs. This is my speculation


276 posted on 06/20/2006 7:55:37 AM PDT by dennisw (Fate of Nations)
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To: Kenny Bunk; calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; ...
For starters, unlike Euros, we have a whole 'States' Rights' issue to help shield us from anything truly nutsoid.

I wouldn't count on that if I were you.

30th Annual Conference of the New England Governors and the Eastern Canadian Premiers Newport, Rhode Island - May 11-13, 2006

RESOLUTION 30-3

RESOLUTION CONCERNING TRADE COOPERATION AND REGIONAL ACTION PLAN OF THE SECURITY AND PROSPERITY PARTNERSHIP OF NORTH AMERICA

WHEREAS, the cooperation between the governments of Canada and the United States and regionally, between the governments of New England and Eastern Canada ensures our continued good relations to embrace enhanced cross-border security initiatives essential to continuing and increasing our exchange of goods and services; and

WHEREAS , for each New England state and the region as a whole Canada represents the largest trading partner, with bilateral trade valued at CAD$25 billion in 2005 between New England and Canada, and an estimated 280,000 jobs in New England are supported by trade with Canada; and

WHEREAS, in March, 2005 the leaders of the governments of Canada, the United States and Mexico established the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), an unprecedented example of continental cooperation over a wide variety of subject areas, focusing on security and prosperity (trade), and subsequently, the promulgation of

SPP action plans that will fundamentally influence our cross-border trading relationships; and

WHEREAS, at the 29th Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers and pursuant to Resolution 29-1, the governments of Canada and the United States were informed that while governors and premiers support the objective of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), it is important to involve the states and provinces in the preparation of measures to support the SPP; and

WHEREAS, at the 29th Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers and pursuant to Resolution 29-1, the Standing Committee on Trade Cooperation was tasked to prepare a draft action plan aimed at strengthening cooperation between the members of the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers in areas targeted by the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America; and

WHEREAS, pursuant to Resolution 29-1, the Standing Committee on Trade Cooperation met January 12, 2006 in Boston, and reviewed the preliminary report on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), prepared by Quebec, and have incorporated this work into the preparation of a draft regional action plan aimed at strengthening cooperation between the members of the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers in areas targeted by the SPP; and

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers mandate the Standing Committee on Trade Cooperation to implement the CommitteeÂ’s 2006 work plan to enhance trade relationships between states and provinces, and most particularly and as a priority, to mandate the Committee to complete the document entitled Regional Action Plan on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and report back to the next meeting of the Conference on the progress made in implementing this regional plan.

Adopted at the 30th Annual Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers, Newport, Rhode Island, May 13, 2006.

Donald L. Carcieri Governor of Rhode Island Co-chair

Patrick G. Binns Premier of Prince Edward Island Co-chair

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=3311298681040⟨=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE36
277 posted on 06/20/2006 7:56:01 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; Czar; ...
Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, Report to Leaders

One for research
278 posted on 06/20/2006 8:24:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: dennisw
Bush appears to be looking beyond just North American integration, and is setting his sights further to South America. "What we're really talking about here is not a big bang. We're talking about big progress," the prime minister said.

"What kind of union might there be?" Bush said rhetorically in response to a question. "I see one based on free trade. It entails a commitment to markets and democracy, transparency and rule of law."

Closer trade ties will help sovereignty: Martin

Haven't we been saying for years, that "free trade" is being used to dissolve borders and destroy our sovereignty? The headline for this article is just newspeak, IMO.
279 posted on 06/20/2006 8:42:38 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: 1rudeboy

Here's a treatise that explains a lot of the debating styles agoin' on on FR.

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/brainwsh.shtml


280 posted on 06/20/2006 8:47:58 AM PDT by tertiary01
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