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North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court
Human Events Online ^ | Jun 19, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/19/2006 7:37:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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To: 1rudeboy
Did you make her look foolish by using the Alinsky Method?
261 posted on 06/19/2006 6:07:39 PM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: hedgetrimmer; Smartass

Thanks for the pings; I won't be able to catch up tonight, and probably for the next week. I will do so as soon as possible.


262 posted on 06/19/2006 6:35:03 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: hedgetrimmer; Smartass

btw, I see this article's been moved to "chat."

I'm not surprised.


263 posted on 06/19/2006 6:36:14 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: Sandy

Thank you, thank you, thank you.

That was exactly what I was hoping for: (1) COnfirmation that others have thought this might be an issue that I know are a lot smarter than I am; and (2) that the Supreme Court has interpreted that clasue in a rational sort of way.

This means for me tht no matter what the various agreements are between governments, they are not supposed to circumvent the Constitution.

Now, lets keep an eye out to see that it remans that way.

I very much appreciate your response.


264 posted on 06/19/2006 9:37:12 PM PDT by LachlanMinnesota
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To: Comstock1

Yes, and remember NAFTA is not even a treaty....


265 posted on 06/19/2006 9:54:11 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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To: hedgetrimmer

Such traitorous goals, actions . . . skullduggery . . .

Some evil, traitorous folks deserve to have their . . . Dillbo Klintoon 'brains' . . .

prepared like chicken for shredded chicken enchiladas.


266 posted on 06/19/2006 10:11:36 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Again, we have abundant proof that Congress is unbelievably lax when it comes to something as fundamental as reading or understanding the complex laws our elected legislators typically pass.
Nothing new there.
267 posted on 06/20/2006 12:40:59 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: hedgetrimmer
Especially NOT on the internet.
Nothing to see here folks...move along.
268 posted on 06/20/2006 12:44:27 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: philman_36
Tancredo confronts 'super-state' effort

Demands full disclosure of White House work with Mexico, Canada

Responding to a WorldNetDaily report, Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., is demanding the Bush administration fully disclose the activities of an office implementing a trilateral agreement with Mexico and Canada that apparently could lead to a North American union, despite having no authorization from Congress.

As WND reported, the White House has established working groups, under the North American Free Trade Agreement office in the Department of Commerce, to implement the Security and Prosperity Partnership, or SPP, signed by President Bush, Mexican President Vicente Fox and then-Canadian Prime Minister Paul Martin in Waco, Texas, March 23, 2005.

The groups, however, have no authorization from Congress and have not disclosed the results of their work despite two years of massive effort within the executive branches of the U.S., Mexico and Canada.

Tancredo wants to know the membership of the SPP groups along with their various trilateral memoranda of understanding and other agreements reached with counterparts in Mexico and Canada.

Tancredo's decision has been endorsed by Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project.

"It's time for the Bush administration to come clean," Gilchrist told WND. "If President Bush's agenda is to establish a new North American union government to supersede the sovereignty of the United States, then the president has an obligation to tell this to the American people directly. The American public has a right to know."

Geri Word, who heads the SPP office, told WND the work had not been disclosed because, "We did not want to get the contact people of the working groups distracted by calls from the public."

WND can find no specific congressional legislation authorizing the SPP working groups nor any congressional committees taking charge of oversight.

Many SPP working groups appear to be working toward achieving specific objectives as defined by a May 2005 Council on Foreign Relations task force report, which presented a blueprint for expanding the SPP agreement into a North American union that would merge the U.S., Canada and Mexico into a new governmental form.
269 posted on 06/20/2006 7:08:52 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; Czar; ...
See post # 269

Would it help for as many people as possible to file FOIA requests? What can we do to help?
270 posted on 06/20/2006 7:11:31 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Tancredo's decision has been endorsed by Jim Gilchrist, founder of the Minuteman Project.

Thanks for the ping. Now that's an interesting coalition developing. Shining the spotlight into the dark corners of political manipulations to see what scurries for cover is always good.

271 posted on 06/20/2006 7:34:22 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

We are being sold out and I dont have a fix for it at the moment.


272 posted on 06/20/2006 7:37:07 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero » with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona....)
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To: Toddsterpatriot; Mr. Lucky; nopardons; hedgetrimmer
Things like this used to be the talk of conspiracy theorists and fringe groups, but it seems there is some definite truth to all of this, and it's very disturbing.

There is cause for alarm here, boys and girls. The question is, as always, "How much alarm?" The truth of the matter (great phrase) is that we seem to have caught the government trying to slip (another?) one by us under the radar. It's a big one, but now it's more out in the open than it was.

If our Euro-Cousins are any guide, their governments tried to keep the public more or less out until they had this EU thing all wrapped up and packaged for those voting in nation-by-nation referenda. We are a long way from that and have a whole 'nother thing to keep our eye on. For starters, unlike Euros, we have a whole 'States' Rights' issue to help shield us from anything truly nutsoid.

But folks, IMHO, you should take this very seriously, and not 'dis' those who take it more seriously than you might think appropriate. (Whole lotta dat goin' on!)

Personally, I take this so seriously, that I am willing to forgive a bit of panic on the part of others and hear them out. Still learning.

273 posted on 06/20/2006 7:46:57 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Don't be paranoid ...just make sure ain't someone out to get us.)
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To: Smartass; nicmarlo; ATOMIC_PUNK; Czar; texastoo; WestCoastGal; who knows what evil?

Yo os pingo


274 posted on 06/20/2006 7:50:00 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk ( Don't be paranoid ...just make sure ain't someone out to get us.)
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To: Kenny Bunk
But folks, IMHO, you should take this very seriously, and not 'dis' those who take it more seriously than you might think appropriate.

That might be easier if those who take it so seriously weren't such fools.

275 posted on 06/20/2006 7:50:14 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: hedgetrimmer

My own conspiracy take is:

The elites of the US know that all these NAFTA ports and highways are to facilitate more low priced Chinese/Asian imports and will make our trade deficits much worse. This will make the dollar crash. Iran, Russia, Europeans will bring in a gold/oil standard currency to replace the USD as the world's most trusted currency. Gold will be at $3000/ounce to enable this. Oil will be $130/barrel

Our elites are heavy investors in gold right now. They are the ultimate reptilian gold bugs. This is my speculation


276 posted on 06/20/2006 7:55:37 AM PDT by dennisw (Fate of Nations)
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To: Kenny Bunk; calcowgirl; nicmarlo; texastoo; William Terrell; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; cinives; ...
For starters, unlike Euros, we have a whole 'States' Rights' issue to help shield us from anything truly nutsoid.

I wouldn't count on that if I were you.

30th Annual Conference of the New England Governors and the Eastern Canadian Premiers Newport, Rhode Island - May 11-13, 2006

RESOLUTION 30-3

RESOLUTION CONCERNING TRADE COOPERATION AND REGIONAL ACTION PLAN OF THE SECURITY AND PROSPERITY PARTNERSHIP OF NORTH AMERICA

WHEREAS, the cooperation between the governments of Canada and the United States and regionally, between the governments of New England and Eastern Canada ensures our continued good relations to embrace enhanced cross-border security initiatives essential to continuing and increasing our exchange of goods and services; and

WHEREAS , for each New England state and the region as a whole Canada represents the largest trading partner, with bilateral trade valued at CAD$25 billion in 2005 between New England and Canada, and an estimated 280,000 jobs in New England are supported by trade with Canada; and

WHEREAS, in March, 2005 the leaders of the governments of Canada, the United States and Mexico established the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), an unprecedented example of continental cooperation over a wide variety of subject areas, focusing on security and prosperity (trade), and subsequently, the promulgation of

SPP action plans that will fundamentally influence our cross-border trading relationships; and

WHEREAS, at the 29th Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers and pursuant to Resolution 29-1, the governments of Canada and the United States were informed that while governors and premiers support the objective of the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), it is important to involve the states and provinces in the preparation of measures to support the SPP; and

WHEREAS, at the 29th Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers and pursuant to Resolution 29-1, the Standing Committee on Trade Cooperation was tasked to prepare a draft action plan aimed at strengthening cooperation between the members of the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers in areas targeted by the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America; and

WHEREAS, pursuant to Resolution 29-1, the Standing Committee on Trade Cooperation met January 12, 2006 in Boston, and reviewed the preliminary report on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP), prepared by Quebec, and have incorporated this work into the preparation of a draft regional action plan aimed at strengthening cooperation between the members of the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers in areas targeted by the SPP; and

NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers mandate the Standing Committee on Trade Cooperation to implement the CommitteeÂ’s 2006 work plan to enhance trade relationships between states and provinces, and most particularly and as a priority, to mandate the Committee to complete the document entitled Regional Action Plan on the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America and report back to the next meeting of the Conference on the progress made in implementing this regional plan.

Adopted at the 30th Annual Conference of New England Governors and Eastern Canadian Premiers, Newport, Rhode Island, May 13, 2006.

Donald L. Carcieri Governor of Rhode Island Co-chair

Patrick G. Binns Premier of Prince Edward Island Co-chair

http://cc.msnscache.com/cache.aspx?q=3311298681040⟨=en-US&mkt=en-US&FORM=CVRE36
277 posted on 06/20/2006 7:56:01 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, Report to Leaders

One for research
278 posted on 06/20/2006 8:24:12 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: dennisw
Bush appears to be looking beyond just North American integration, and is setting his sights further to South America. "What we're really talking about here is not a big bang. We're talking about big progress," the prime minister said.

"What kind of union might there be?" Bush said rhetorically in response to a question. "I see one based on free trade. It entails a commitment to markets and democracy, transparency and rule of law."

Closer trade ties will help sovereignty: Martin

Haven't we been saying for years, that "free trade" is being used to dissolve borders and destroy our sovereignty? The headline for this article is just newspeak, IMO.
279 posted on 06/20/2006 8:42:38 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: 1rudeboy

Here's a treatise that explains a lot of the debating styles agoin' on on FR.

http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/brainwsh.shtml


280 posted on 06/20/2006 8:47:58 AM PDT by tertiary01
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