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North American Union Would Trump U.S. Supreme Court
Human Events Online ^ | Jun 19, 2006 | Jerome R. Corsi

Posted on 06/19/2006 7:37:30 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer

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To: hedgetrimmer

Later read.


161 posted on 06/19/2006 10:42:53 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: 1rudeboy
Eastbound wrote:

It's really that simple, but difficult for most to absorb. We have to be a nation of laws and not men, else we'll fail. But those laws have to be, as you point out, in pursuance to the Bill of Rights/Constitution, for the Constitution constructs the legal mechanism and contract for our elected officials to adhere to, to prevent infringement of both enumerated and non-enumerated rights of the individual.

I replied

Our failure to hold those elected officials to their constitutional oaths is the real problem, as I see it.
It's a failure of our political 'two party' system. And FR is a perfect example of why that system is not working to restore our Constitution.

I notice you are defending our two party system, R-boy. Care to expand on your point? -- How are our liberties being defended by the present system?

Is our Constitution being honored by either party?

162 posted on 06/19/2006 10:45:41 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: 1rudeboy
No, it makes you an entrepreneur that has never read NAFTA.

Or an entrepreneur who can't count?

163 posted on 06/19/2006 10:48:21 AM PDT by Toddsterpatriot (Why are protectionists so bad at math?)
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To: tpaine

Making fun of our current crop of third-party candidates is not "defending our two party system," so no thanks.


164 posted on 06/19/2006 10:52:08 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Interesting speech.


165 posted on 06/19/2006 10:53:35 AM PDT by jer33 3
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To: 1rudeboy

"No thanks" -- for what?


166 posted on 06/19/2006 10:56:14 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: 1rudeboy

If you have to question what trade has to do with illegal immigration then you obviously are forgetting the line of BS we heard from the Clinton's et al about all the "benefits" we'd derive from NAFTA. They lied about our trade balances with Mexico( a healthy surplus has turned into a steadily rising deficit), how it would decrease illegal immigration by creating so many new jobs for Mexicans ( even want to touch that??), plus all the new jobs it would create in this country( an even bigger joke).

The point is this so-called trade agreement created a parasitical relationship between the US and Mexico that now has evolved into a sociological nightmare for healthcare givers, educators, prison officials, etc. Sorry, you just can't focus on one or two aspects of something like this to determine it's impact.......one has to look at the entire impact of NAFTA, CAFTA, etc. on our society to determine it's value.......and so far it's a disaster. If you don'tunderstand that you being disingenuous at best and delusional at worst.


167 posted on 06/19/2006 11:05:22 AM PDT by american spirit
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To: 1rudeboy

Oh, it's still frowned-upon, it's just that FR is sticking with the technical requirement that the actual articles be different.


168 posted on 06/19/2006 11:13:02 AM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: mariabush
"I feel that 43, because of his spirituality has a different view."

I hope so, but he hasn't shown much evidence of it. His stance on illegal immigration, for instance.

Carolyn

169 posted on 06/19/2006 11:15:22 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: You Dirty Rats

oh that thing buzzes my house in Springfield almost every night.

I download my NAU resume to it :)


170 posted on 06/19/2006 11:20:05 AM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Foreman of the NAU)
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To: CDHart

Bush Sr. was the first to use the words "New World Order" because the Carnegie Institute had just published an influential policy document called "Self Determination in the New World Order". In 1992, this policy paper was published in book form http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0870030183/002-9341899-5438408?v=glance&n=283155 and was completely embraced by Clinton, who hired the authors for influential positions in his Administration.


A review & description of Self Determination in the New World Order is here: http://www.foreignaffairs.org/19921201fabook6395/morton-h-halperin-david-j-scheffer-patricia-small/self-determination-in-the-new-world-order.html
It's first real-world application was the break up of Yugoslavia -- with disasterous results.


171 posted on 06/19/2006 11:20:36 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org & www.serbblog.com)
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To: tpaine
"Many here think that States can ignore our RKBA's. Figure that."

The people in those states are there own victims, not suing for a republican form of government. When the U.S. Constitution is ratified by any state, the state at that time agreed that there can be no thing in their laws or state constitutions or judges rulings that are repugnant to the supreme law of the land, which of course is the Bill of Rights/U.S. Constitution, which specifically protects and recognizes the right of the people to keep and bear arms.

The U.S. Constitution recognizes the right of the people to keep and bear arms and it warns the federal government to not even think about infringing on that right. It is right there in front of their eyes, in black and white -- that the right to keep and bear arms is a right of the people -- not the federal government or state governments.

It defies logic why the people would agree that the federal government cannot prevent you from the act of defending your life, and then turn right around and allow the state to prevent you from defending your life? Does not compute.

172 posted on 06/19/2006 11:32:04 AM PDT by Eastbound
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To: Bokababe
Well, at least the blue helments stand out and provide good targets.

Carolyn

173 posted on 06/19/2006 11:37:14 AM PDT by CDHart ("It's too late to work within the system and too early to shoot the b@#$%^&s."--Claire Wolfe)
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To: Logical me
That's why we should never surrender our guns. Keep America strong and keep Government honest.

1,000% agreement!!

174 posted on 06/19/2006 11:44:01 AM PDT by A message
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To: Reagan Man
yeah, We keep doing it to oursef's...where's the picture of the guy inserting his head up his backside.
Maybe ALL elected officials need to repeat Gov101 with quarterly updates on the Constitution. Actually, pretty sad commentary on either their innate GT, attention span or the ability of their professors..Pretty sad in either or all events...
175 posted on 06/19/2006 11:46:39 AM PDT by Gunny P (Gunny P)
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To: Reagan Man
yeah, We keep doing it to oursef's...where's the picture of the guy inserting his head up his backside.
Maybe ALL elected officials need to repeat Gov101 with quarterly updates on the Constitution. Actually, pretty sad commentary on either their innate G2, attention span or the ability of their professors..Pretty sad in either or all events...
176 posted on 06/19/2006 11:47:50 AM PDT by Gunny P (Gunny P)
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To: Bikers4Bush; mariabush
He absolutely has and all the exclamation points in the world won't change that.

Posted with the same certitude used to falsely claim that B4B had inside information about the President's recent trip to Iraq. B4B has ZERO credibility.

177 posted on 06/19/2006 11:54:35 AM PDT by Wolfstar (Where you go with me, heaven will always be.)
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To: MEGoody
It was not some huge conspiracy that was covered up though. It was all done very publicly, and the citizens voted on it. Little hard to swallow this all happening 'under wraps' just because someone claims that it is so..

I agree. Not saying that Corsi is correct -- as a matter of fact, I think that he may be rather "out there". However, I never heard about "the case of Methenex vs. The State of CA" that he talks about. But if he is correct on this one small point -- that "had Methenex won, the State would have been liable" --this is an enormous issue well worth investigating.

NGO's (some of which are called "think-tanks")have a huge influence on public policy. The issues then get reframed (or repackaged) by politicians for our consumption. Just take a look at what the Carnegie Institute has to say about the US vs. Euro attitudes toward "Human Rights" in the International arena: http://www.foreignaffairs.org/20051101fabook84613/michael-ignatieff/american-exceptionalism-and-human-rights.html

Do you think that this represents the views of most Freepers?

178 posted on 06/19/2006 11:56:19 AM PDT by Bokababe (www.savekosovo.org & www.serbblog.com)
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To: LachlanMinnesota
Part of Article VI of the Constitution:

You really think a few words in the Constitution really rule?

179 posted on 06/19/2006 11:57:38 AM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: Wolfstar

As I said before Wolfstar, believe what you'd like.


180 posted on 06/19/2006 11:57:40 AM PDT by Bikers4Bush (Flood waters rising, heading for more conservative ground. Vote for true conservatives!)
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