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To: Non-Sequitur
PS. Why the double standard? You continuously bemoan the seceding states unilateral secessions, yet you worhship Dictator Lincolns unilateral overthrow of the Constitution. Why are his actions justified and those of millions to be condemned? He made it perfectly clear that he was only saving the union, not fighting to free a single slave.

Just how many millions would you sacrifice for 'union'? You insist that those seceding were still 'Americans', yet you laud those that slaughtered them by the thousands. I've only seen that kind of reaction from Islamics celebrating 9/11 . Are you Muslim? Just how many millions of Americans deserve death for wanting to be free?

Did our ancestors that fought Britain deserve death, to be dragged back under her despotism because they had the temerity to yearn to be free? And if they had failed, would that make their cause less noble? What about Iraqis - are they to be condemned for wanting to be free of Saddam Hussein? Should they continue to be subject to forced rape, mutilations, torture and death, or is freedom worth fighting for.

Personally, all your whining and posturing makes me sick, you sound like Al Shapton or Jesse Jackson. There's a reason the war never ends, and it's because folks like you ignore their ancestors culpability and attempt to condemn those that simply want nothing more than to honour their gallant Confederate dead - men that never owned a slave, men that left family and friends behind, men that gave everything in defense of their homes and their right to be free.

OK?

1,084 posted on 06/26/2006 7:10:43 AM PDT by 4CJ (Annoy a liberal, honour Christians and our gallant Confederate dead)
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To: 4CJ
PS. Why the double standard? You continuously bemoan the seceding states unilateral secessions, yet you worhship Dictator Lincolns unilateral overthrow of the Constitution.

The double standard lies on your side, I've been consistent all along. Accusing Lincoln of racism and not Lee and Davis and Jackson, accusing Lincoln of violating the U.S. Constitution but not the confederate leaders of violating theirs. Double standards all along.

And by the way, the Constitution was not overthrown, unilaterally or otherwise merely because you said it was.

Just how many millions would you sacrifice for 'union'? You insist that those seceding were still 'Americans', yet you laud those that slaughtered them by the thousands.

Had the toll of the war been 600,000 but the confederacy had won their rebellion and achieved independence would you have said the cost was worth it? Some things are worth dying for, the country being one of them.

Did our ancestors that fought Britain deserve death, to be dragged back under her despotism because they had the temerity to yearn to be free? And if they had failed, would that make their cause less noble?

Despotism? Yearn to be free? Lame hyperbole aside, had our Founding Father's lost their rebellion I have no doubt that the penalties inflicted on them by the crown would have been much more severe than those imposed on the south. Necks would have been stretched, and it's doubtful that the colonies have been able to retain what little local control they had prior to the revolution, much less enjoy almost immediate inclusion in to the government that the southern states had following their rebellion.

What about Iraqis - are they to be condemned for wanting to be free of Saddam Hussein? Should they continue to be subject to forced rape, mutilations, torture and death, or is freedom worth fighting for.

Is this where you compare European intervention into your rebellion, had it happened, with the U.S. intervention into Iraq?

Personally, all your whining and posturing makes me sick, you sound like Al Shapton or Jesse Jackson.

Then take an Alka Seltzer or go elsewhere. Personally I would find your arm-waving, mouth-foaming, pathologically insane hatred of Abraham Lincoln to be funny if it weren't so sad.

There's a reason the war never ends, and it's because folks like you ignore their ancestors culpability and attempt to condemn those that simply want nothing more than to honour their gallant Confederate dead - men that never owned a slave, men that left family and friends behind, men that gave everything in defense of their homes and their right to be free.

If that's all it was then I wouldn't be here. But all to often men like you "honor" your ancestors through slander, myths, and out-and-out lies about my ancestors.

1,087 posted on 06/26/2006 8:16:08 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: 4CJ
Did our ancestors that fought Britain deserve death, to be dragged back under her despotism because they had the temerity to yearn to be free? And if they had failed, would that make their cause less noble? What about Iraqis - are they to be condemned for wanting to be free of Saddam Hussein? Should they continue to be subject to forced rape, mutilations, torture and death, or is freedom worth fighting for.

What about the threat of the dreaded "slave insurrection" that the Dixie big shots used to excite the non-slaveowning rabble into their service? Doesn't the slave have as much to rebel over deprivation of freedom as the slave owner does over an election result he doesn't like? The morally bankrupt rebs talked a noble game but they were all for a heavy-handed state when they were the ones wielding the club of government upon their"property".

1,089 posted on 06/26/2006 12:26:53 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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