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Corsi, Tancredo on Liddy to Challenge WH unauthorized work on 'North American Union'
World Net Daily ^ | June 14, 2006 | WND

Posted on 06/14/2006 1:22:02 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk

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To: EternalVigilance
Yes, yes, I'm part of the grand conspiracy. Why they're going to replace the constitution with a McDonald's menu.

You and your ilk have been posting rehashes of the same crap from Corsi and you complain because I ask you to post a thread on a completely different issue?


Sovereignty!


You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

741 posted on 06/21/2006 10:33:17 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude

Sovereignty means that the American people rule.

You got a problem with that, punk?


742 posted on 06/21/2006 10:36:54 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
Sovereignty means that the American people rule.

No it does not.

743 posted on 06/21/2006 10:38:16 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude
You nutters won't be persuaded by facts

You've never presented one.
744 posted on 06/21/2006 10:39:18 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: AmishDude
No it does not.

Sure it does, ultimately. If you devoted as much time to actual thought as you do to acting like an egotistical punk, you'd realize it.

745 posted on 06/21/2006 10:40:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: AmishDude

I bet you get beat up alot in school.


746 posted on 06/21/2006 10:40:36 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
No. It. Does. Not.

That is not sovereignty. Just to give you an example, North Korea has sovereignty, but nobody but the potbelly has any say there.

747 posted on 06/21/2006 10:41:15 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude

Obviously, you're not familiar with our form of government or its premises.


748 posted on 06/21/2006 10:42:21 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: hedgetrimmer

Here's a fact: There is not now, nor will there be, a North American Superstate. It is all the product of Corsi's imagination.


749 posted on 06/21/2006 10:43:04 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: EternalVigilance

I am familiar with sovereignty. I know how it is defined and it is not defined in the way you want it to be defined.


750 posted on 06/21/2006 10:43:53 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: EternalVigilance
I bet you get beat up alot in school.

As a matter of fact, no. Although it wouldn't surprise me if you might relate well to school, having spent a couple of decades there.

751 posted on 06/21/2006 10:45:12 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude
I am familiar with sovereignty. I know how it is defined and it is not defined in the way you want it to be defined.

It is in America. Maybe you should study that instead of North Korean communist dogma?

Ever hear of "We the people", or "the consent of the governed"?

752 posted on 06/21/2006 10:47:34 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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To: EternalVigilance
What you are trying so desperately to define is legitimacy, not sovereignty.

Even then, legitimacy should work the way you describe, but a cynical mind would say that this is not always the case.

753 posted on 06/21/2006 10:50:09 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude
"A person, body, or state in which independent authority is vested;< i.e.a U.S. citizen) a chief ruler with supreme power; a king or other ruler in a monarchy."--Black's Law Dictionary

Sovereignty means that the American people rule.

This is correct
754 posted on 06/21/2006 10:54:00 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Black's is not saying that the sovereignty of the United States means that the American people rule and your definition proves it. From a legal sense, "sovereignty" can apply in different situations and Black is just saying that in certain circumstances, an individual may have sovereignty over his house, but Congress has sovereignty over the Capitol building.

But Black's Law Dictionary has nothing to do with national sovereignty, it has to do with conflicts among individuals under the rule of a larger -- sovereign -- state body.

Sorry.

755 posted on 06/21/2006 11:01:36 PM PDT by AmishDude (I am the King Nut.)
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To: AmishDude
What you are trying so desperately to define is legitimacy, not sovereignty.

Hogwash.

756 posted on 06/21/2006 11:20:33 PM PDT by EternalVigilance
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