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Reliability Survey: Windows Servers Beat Linux Boxes
Yahoo News ^ | Mon Jun 5 | Gregg Keizer

Posted on 06/07/2006 4:17:30 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

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To: N3WBI3
Well, your load average is higher :-)

The two 1300+ day systems I have are internal webservers that are a bit overpowered for their current load. A lot of their processes have been offloaded to newer systems. They are scheduled to be decomissioned in the next 6 months. 

21 posted on 06/07/2006 8:11:48 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: N3WBI3
Sure you do and Ill tell you why..

That's not the way I meant it. I meant people care about how many hours per year is this web site available. Both the OS and the service affect that. IOW, I meant the OS is only part of the picture, and Microsoft has some things beyond the base OS that make it look even worse.

22 posted on 06/07/2006 8:15:39 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: 1L
In addition to the 'uptime' command, you can also use 'last'.

 bash-2.05# uptime
 10:14am  up 236 day(s), 17:02,  1 user,  load average: 0.28, 0.17, 0.19
bash-2.05# last reboot
reboot    system boot                   Thu Oct 13 17:12
reboot    system boot                   Thu Oct 13 17:04
reboot    system boot                   Tue Feb 15 21:15
reboot    system boot                   Tue Feb 15 21:04
reboot    system boot                   Sun Nov 14 19:50
reboot    system boot                   Mon Oct 18 10:16
reboot    system boot                   Sat Oct 16 03:55

wtmp begins Sat Oct 16 03:55
bash-2.05#

Unfortunately, the 'last' command is of not much use if you measure uptime in years...

$ uptime
 10:16am  up 1349 day(s), 17:16,  1 user,  load average: 0.01, 0.01, 0.01
fada1w3p11: pugha :) last reboot
reboot    system boot                   Thu Sep 26 17:00
reboot    system boot                   Sun Aug 11 16:34
reboot    system boot                   Sun Aug  4 15:33
reboot    system boot                   Sun Aug  4 15:30
reboot    system boot                   Sun Aug  4 15:27
reboot    system boot                   Fri Aug  2 15:35
reboot    system boot                   Fri Aug  2 15:27
reboot    system boot                   Fri Jul 26 08:01
reboot    system boot                   Thu Jul 25 17:05

wtmp begins Thu Jul 25 17:05
$

So, the system was rebooted sept 26. But it doesn't tell you that was Sept 6., 2003!

23 posted on 06/07/2006 8:17:51 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

Apologies and good point


24 posted on 06/07/2006 8:31:17 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: zeugma

If youre using log rotate last is not going to be too much help..


25 posted on 06/07/2006 8:34:30 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3

Yup. Logrotate kills the usefulness of last. You should see the size of the wtmp files we have on some of our systems.


26 posted on 06/07/2006 8:44:52 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: zeugma
Given it catcehs you last reboot I cant even Imagine how big it is..

The system I put up gets a bit of traffic so I cant leave logs out there or I would fill up the drive..

27 posted on 06/07/2006 8:47:35 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: N3WBI3
I just took a look at it, and it doesn't look as bad as I'd have thought. wtmpx is about 7MB.

The system is running Solaris 8 and is set up to only log at 'error' or above.

I've had multi-hundred meg wtmp files on some systems, so I really prefer to set logrotate to catch them before they get out of hand.

28 posted on 06/07/2006 9:09:27 AM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: N3WBI3
Good article debunking a previous study on the same subject by the same group..

http://www.businessweek.com/the_thread/techbeat/archives/2005/04/the_truth_about_1.html

29 posted on 06/07/2006 9:36:16 AM PDT by N3WBI3 ("I can kill you with my brain" - River Tam)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

What about the Novell Server that had over 6 years of Uptime??


30 posted on 06/07/2006 2:09:28 PM PDT by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

My Linux firewall:

16:10:53 up 262 days, 8:39, 1 user, load average: 1.84, 1.38, 1.26


31 posted on 06/07/2006 2:11:35 PM PDT by amigatec (There are no significant bugs in our software... Maybe you're not using it properly.- Bill Gates)
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To: N3WBI3; zeugma

You both have me beat...8^)

4: uptime
16:56 up 318 days, 12:01, 40 users, load average: 0.53, 0.53, 0.53


32 posted on 06/07/2006 2:57:19 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: antiRepublicrat

If you search my posts you'll see that this is probably the first time I've brought that up.....

Well, I didn't explicitly say it, but I clearly implied it.

Most of the time, their claims can be thrown out on their face, no need to play the silly discreditism game.


33 posted on 06/07/2006 7:40:24 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: N3WBI3; zeugma; rzeznikj at stout
suse10.1@linux-49in:~> uptime

10:47pm up 1:16, 3 users, load average: 0.07, 0.05, 0.07

:-)

34 posted on 06/07/2006 7:47:26 PM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Mine was when I was connected to the Unix server at school...

This is for my Suse 10.0 box...

9:48pm up 1:08, 3 users, load average: 0.72, 0.67, 0.48


35 posted on 06/07/2006 7:50:18 PM PDT by rzeznikj at stout (ASCII and ye shall receive... (Computers 3:14))
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To: rzeznikj at stout

Ah hah! AH HAH!!! SEE!! I BEAT YOU BY 8 MINUTES!

lol

:-P


36 posted on 06/09/2006 5:42:16 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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