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Attorneys in Duke rape case file motion to get lineup report
Winston-Salem Journal (NC) ^ | Sunday, May 28, 2006 | staff

Posted on 05/28/2006 9:59:32 AM PDT by Perdogg

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To: Constitutions Grandchild

I don't think the panthers would finance her defense. She's a loser and she's only valuable to them so long as she can be maintanied in an aura of black victimhood. Further, she might be forced to testify about mistreatment from a black pimp. They aren't going to want their signature on anybody with anything bad to say about a brother. There will be a lot more exposed about her employment as a hooker in the context of a civil case than there would be in a criminal case. The panthers are in it for notoriety and money, not because they give a rat's patoot about Mangum. They're just johns of a different stripe to her.


401 posted on 05/31/2006 4:51:47 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

Good points, but I don't think they'll sue in federal court. Why would they, when they can sue in state court and get a Durham jury? That's what they want because their only hope at a win is a pathologically biased jury.


402 posted on 05/31/2006 4:55:11 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

But if he waits to sue, she'll have more $ from her windfall civil suit!! ;)


403 posted on 05/31/2006 4:58:19 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Jezebelle

Actually all the race baiters were after a big payday. Jesse Jackson shut up pretty quick after the offer to pay her tuition. I am sure Willie Gary saw a loser when he looked at this thing. The thought of the possibility of the falsely accused victims owning his fleet of jets if he got involved probably crossed his mind. The only ones that were dumb enough to make a show and attach their names to her have suddenly disappeared as well. Like rats jumping off a sinking ship.


404 posted on 05/31/2006 4:58:31 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Hogeye13

How would the falsely accused end up with Gary Willie's jets?


405 posted on 05/31/2006 5:01:21 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Dukie07

What windfall civil suit? You mean a settlement from Duke? I'm not so sure Duke will settle easily because of the precedent it would set. They would be under tremendous pressure from alumnae and other universities to not settle.


406 posted on 05/31/2006 5:04:16 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: All

Shep just did a short segment on Roberts day in court yesterday with footage, tongue shot and all. She was in court for violating her probation for failing to pay restitution, failing to attend appointments with her probation officer, and leaving the state while prohibited from doing so without permission. i guess this was just her arraignment.

It's no wonder the lax guys wanted them to leave and felt ripped off. Roberts is nothing to look at. She's not ugly, but she sure isn't pretty - pretty plain. Most of all, she always looks angry and mean. I strongly suspect she robbed Mangum. I wonder if Mangum has figured it out yet or at least suspects it.


407 posted on 05/31/2006 5:17:19 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle
Just the thought that the players might go after every deep pocket that attached themselves to the accuser. She doesn't have anything but the others do. The players should also look closely at the statements by the talking heads that have tried, convicted and executed them in all areas of the news media. I think that they could all be vulnerable.
408 posted on 05/31/2006 5:19:32 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: Hogeye13

A plaintiff can't recover a judgment award from a defendant's attorney. A plaintiff would have to have a separate cause of action against the attorney and sue him/her separately.

I don't know about suing the talking heads, either. That's a tough road to travel and seems like more of a distraction than anything else, and talking heads have plenty of resources to field a strong defense. Right now, the defense is ahead in the media war, so I think they'd be better off to just let the media carry their water. The fact that the NAACP wants a gag order is a strong indicator of that success.


409 posted on 05/31/2006 5:31:33 PM PDT by Jezebelle
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To: Jezebelle

With the client he would have the separate cause of action could materialize.

I think also a certain security guard in Atlanta took on CNN and won after they falsely accused him of the Olympic bombing.
In our society most anything is possible. I am generally opposed to the lawsuit mentality in the country, but in this case I would fully support the players in any effort they took to recoup their losses in this matter.


410 posted on 05/31/2006 5:48:26 PM PDT by Hogeye13
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To: GAgal
She must have had the goods on someone worse to offer in exhange for leniency.

One would think. I guess they either wanted her to testify agaist someone or keep her mouth shut on someone. Seems like the latter as when you google Crystal Mangum you do not come up with a DH article on her being a star witness in any case.
411 posted on 05/31/2006 5:57:29 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Jezebelle

I am not a lawyer, but if I am sued in State Civil Court, can I waive a jury trial?


412 posted on 05/31/2006 6:13:41 PM PDT by Andy from Chapel Hill
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To: Jezebelle

I was trying to be facetious. I meant all the cash she's going to be getting from her suit against the players, Duke, her limo driver, etc. (Sorry for the misunderstanding.)


413 posted on 05/31/2006 6:43:50 PM PDT by Dukie07
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To: Mike Nifong
I do know the families of anyone on the lease of that house better get ready because a SUPER-SIZE lawsuit is coming to a Durham Civil Court near you.

Well we have had this discussion. I am not sure how the family of an adult can be sued. I guess if the Evans' signed the lease, they might be sued, but I find it very hard to believe that Duke University would have not just leased the house to their own students.

Now I do expect Duke University to get sued for her falling down on their stairs. I expect that the three leasees of the house have almost zero assets.
414 posted on 05/31/2006 6:56:30 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill

But, it wouldn't be in a Federal Court though, correct?

The Durham gang certainly wants to keep everything in the local court system.


415 posted on 05/31/2006 6:58:09 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: Mike Nifong

"But, it wouldn't be in a Federal Court though, correct?"

I don't think you can sue in a Federal Court unless you are alleging a violtion of a Federal (constitutional) right or issue.

Suing for recovery of damages isn't really a federal issue, but one for the state courts.

(Suing on the basis of being discriminated against because of your race is more in the line of being a federal issue.)


416 posted on 05/31/2006 7:02:14 PM PDT by CondorFlight
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To: JLS

You are right, UNLESS, the womem from Durham are correct in that the Parents are on the lease of 610 N. Buchanan.

Hopefully, the son doesn't have money left to him that can be accessed. We don't know that Grandpa didn't leave him money, most families don't plan on 22-23 year old kids getting sued for millions. If a judgement is won against the 23 old, will it follow him for many years and prevent him from having assets?


417 posted on 05/31/2006 7:20:06 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: JLS

From the the stuff coming out of Durham lately, I am inclined to think they (AV's and family, Lil Kim) are growing tired of the defense motions and the wait.

Her defenders on the Radio today wanted to talk about Civil liability. I think the AV and Kim want their ship to come in sooner rather than later. I see them putting pressure on Willie Gary and company, and Gary pushing back and telling them he should not sign on until later for the benefit of the case.

I can envision the AV and her family looking around and seeing all the local support and wondering why don't we just get the civil trial going, and them thinking that people from Durham are passionate enough to overlook any weaknesses.


418 posted on 05/31/2006 7:28:59 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: Jezebelle
I don't know about suing the talking heads, either.

I was wondering they are in fact public individuals for the purpose of a slander/libel suit. They play a sport, but it is not like it is like playing football or basketball. So I could not decide.
419 posted on 05/31/2006 7:29:47 PM PDT by JLS
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To: Mike Nifong

I tend to think that Gary did not see this case as a big money maker for him. I certainly could be wrong and he may take her on as a client tommorrow, but for now I think she looks like a loser to him.


420 posted on 05/31/2006 7:32:46 PM PDT by JLS
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