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Need Help with Purchasing an LCD Monitor for my PC

Posted on 05/27/2006 5:55:07 PM PDT by Coleus

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To: Swordmaker
Snork, snork... not on a Mac... ;^)>

If you bought that Sony i suggested you will have to adjust the Gamma, even on a mac.

41 posted on 05/27/2006 9:22:50 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker

I have regular light bulbs in the computer room... monitor seems fine though with the lights on or off... dont notice a flicker or eye strain. If it flickered i'd know about it because I have epilepsy! :P LOL


42 posted on 05/27/2006 9:25:48 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Coleus
should i stick with a crt? they still sell them at pc mall.

Some of the newer crt's haven't impressed me. It seems many companies are cutting corners on monitors and tv's. I was helping out someone I know and they had a newer ViewSonic than the one I had. The geometry wasn't very good and the power supply in it was awful, massive blooming. I think I would just get a LCD at this point but I would get it locally if possible so I could return it if it is bad.

43 posted on 05/27/2006 9:27:48 PM PDT by pepperhead (Kennedy's float, Mary Jo's don't!)
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To: Swordmaker
Mac Gamma
44 posted on 05/27/2006 9:31:52 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Coleus
Many people I deal are very happy with 15" LCD replacing a 17" CRT. LCD's have a real 15" when it's lists 15" unlike crt's Especially when desktop space is important. I use a 19" crt and 17" LCD, makes easy to work and freep and the same time.
45 posted on 05/27/2006 9:40:30 PM PDT by ThomasThomas
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To: SouthernBoyupNorth
Sorry for this double post but you asked about manufactures Hands down viewsonic is the best.

We've had quite a few ViewSonic LCD monitors fail in our company. The good ones look good, but the quality control seems to be lacking. Planar is also an inferior maker, as are a lot of the Asian off-brands - high failure rates and inadequate specs, but those sub-$200 price tags are apparently too enticing.

I'd recommend NEC, Samsung, or Sony. They cost more - and there's a good reason. $500-$700 isn't much for a top quality LCD because you'll be able to use it for years. The Apple Cinema Displays are the best on the market, as Swordmaker's post reveals, but they cost even more.

46 posted on 05/27/2006 9:41:06 PM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: Swordmaker
found this review from Ars..

I purchased the Mitsubishi DiamondPro 2070SB (Super Bright) a few months ago from Dell (approx $560 at the time), but was a bit underwhelmed to be honest. Text was just not as sharp as I had been expecting. I compared 3 computers/video cards: Dell8300 w/ATI Radeon9800Pro 128MB // home-built Athlon 850 w/ un-filtered GeForce 2Pro // PowerMac 7600 w/ ATI Rage 128 . At that point I suspected damage during shipping, so I requested a replacement from Dell. The replacement had identical performance. To contrast, I use a Sun UltraSparc workstation on the job paired with a three year-old Sun X7136A (re-badged Sony GDM-5410) , and it seems considerably sharper.

I would recommend viewing this monitor in person prior to purchase, which may be difficult to do since no one seems to carry large CRTs anymore. Try the Sony first though Wink Good luck to you !

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47 posted on 05/27/2006 9:47:50 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Coleus

Not familiar with that brand.

Happy with my Samsung. It can be tilted so a normal verticle page fits the whole screen. or landscape for normal use.


48 posted on 05/27/2006 10:10:45 PM PDT by Quix (PRAY AND WORK WHILE THERE'S DAY! Many very dark nights are looming. Thankfully, God is still God!)
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To: Echo Talon
most people dont worry about it, only extremely anal people me do it, it takes about 5 minutes to do... and if he is worried about a refurbashed monitor dont be, i bought this Hitachi refurbashed over 4 years ago and its still working fine.

I know. Most people take their work to a printer and say "I want that in red and that in blue." That's it.


I got my last 21" CRT at an auction at Delta College. They had a 20" on a table that I bid on but dropped out when the bidding went over $250 (this was back when a large monitors were really expensive!) and it sold to a guy I knew... closed for $475.

As I was walking around, I noticed this single lot pallet of plastic wrapped monitors... mostly 14" ... and other miscellaneous junk. The pallet was 4' x 3' and was stacked 6' high. Looking in, past the small monitors, I saw a large screen...

I won the bid on the pallet of stuff for $75.

At that time I had my big '75 Oldsmobile station wagon (Humphrey the Whale) with me so my daughter and I started unwrapping and unstacking that pallet. I figured I might have to make two trips. My daughter kept saying "Mom's gonna kill you... what are we going do with all this junk?"

I found seventeen 14" monitors, one 15" Radius Pivot Mac monitor, two 17" monitors, a 21" SONY professional grade RGB monitor (much better than the one that sold for $475!), 32 PC keyboards, a box of about 40 PC mouses, two dot matrix parallel printers, three Mac keyboards, another box of Mac Mouses, an even dozen external Mac 10-20Mbyte Harddrives, two Apple Laser Printers, three Mac SEs and a Mac IIsi, a box of power, printer, keyboard, and other miscellaneous cables, and a bag of 40 or 50 multiscan monitor adaptors.

As I was sorting and laying these things out on the parking lot, getting ready to put them in Humphrey, a guy walked over and looked at everything I had.

He said "I just bought a lot of PC computers... how much do you want for those keyboards?"

I didn't want them... so I said "You can have them for $2 apiece."

He counter offered $50 for the lot. I accepted.

He then spotted the PC mouses... "Sell the mouses for another $40?" Yup... sold.

Thinking quickly, I said, "Don't you need some monitors? You can have these 14"ers for $20 each." SOLD!

He also bought the box of miscellaneous cables for $20... and said "I don't need these Mac cables" and sorted them out and gave them back to me. I gave him both dot matrix printers free.

So, there I was, I had left my 21" monitor, 2 17" Monitors, 3 Mac SEs, the Mac IIsi, the Radius Pivot monitor (one that switches from landscape to portrait mode), the Mac keyboards and mouses, two laser printers, the dozen Mac external hard drives and an empty pallet.

As I started to load my much reduced load into Humphrey, this woman was walking by with two kids about 9 or 10 years old... saying "I'm sorry kids. Everything went for too much money. I couldn't afford to buy a computer for you..."

"What are you looking for?" I asked. "We wanted a Macintosh." said she... $60 later she walked away with both SEs, two 20 Meg Hard drives, two keyboards, and two mouses... along with a guarantee from me that if they didn't work, I would replace them. She called me that night and said they worked GREAT! Not only that, but the Hard drives were full of software... including stuff she used at work like Aldus Pagemaker...

They were worth a lot more than that at that time... but the Mom and the kids were happy and so was I.

Meanwhile, I had my monitor in the wagon and a guy walked up and said "What do you want for the two 17" Monitors?"

I was feeling pretty good so I said "Make me an offer..." I sold them for $75 each. He then offered me $200 for the Mac IIsi and $100 for the Radius monitor. SOLD! I tossed in keyboard, mouse, and cables.

Now I was down to ten Mac Hard drives, the bag of adapters, a Mac SE, some Mac Mouses and one keyboard, two laser printers, the 21" Sony and the pallet.

I finally got the really heavy monitor in the wagon... must have weighed 125 pounds. A woman walked up and asked if I was interested in selling one of the laser printers for $100. Sure. SOLD!

I finally packed up the 10 HDs, my monitor, the bag of adapters, Mac SE, mouses, keyboard and one laser printer.

As I finished, a kid walked up and said "I'll give you $2 for that pallet!" SOLD!

This all occurred in the space of about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes.

I spent $75, sold the vast majority of the "junk" didn't want for $1062 and got my 21" monitor that worked perfectly! It had a manufacture date on it only six months earlier than the auction date. I did have to buy a $50 VGA to RGB VNC cable.

I donated the Mac HDs and the laser printer to the local emergency food bank (that's another story) but I had my 21" monitor which worked great and $987 profit!

Those 40 or 50 monitor adaptors? I really didn't know for sure what they were for... but I later found out they were worth about $40 apiece. When I actually counted them, there were 63. I traded those to a local computer store for a brand new Mac... worth $1600.

That pallet was the BEST DAMN DEAL I EVER MADE... ;^)>

I used that monitor for about eight years until one day I turned it on and it went PFFFZZZTTTT... and let out the magic blue smoke that makes these things work. Very stinky.

I still have the Mac SE, keyboard and mouse... its in the garage someplace.

Remember the original 20" that was sold to the guy I knew for $475? Dead on arrival... blown flyback.

49 posted on 05/27/2006 10:37:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Echo Talon
If you bought that Sony i suggested you will have to adjust the Gamma, even on a mac.

Nope, just select the proper Color Synch profile for that model and off you go.

50 posted on 05/27/2006 10:39:46 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker
LOL! I bought my first computer(well technically second one) from a computer show! hehe, I also got a 19" gateway monitor at the show for like $75 LOL

I haven't been to one of those shows in awhile but i wanna go again! :D

51 posted on 05/27/2006 10:43:38 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker

my first computer was a Comodore64 :) second one was a P-I like 90mhz or something with like a 1gb hard drive(I got it for practiall y nothing at a second hard dealer) Then I got the Celeron 300MHZ from the computer show, It was cool because i watched the guy build it right infront of me! very cool! since that I have been building my own. :)


52 posted on 05/27/2006 11:12:00 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Timex Sinclair 1000...
Commodore Vic 20
Commodore C64
Commodore C128
Commodore Amiga 500
Commodore Amiga 3000
Macintosh PowerPC 6400
Macintosh PowerPC G4 Cube + 17" LCD display
Macintosh PowerBook 100 (used for $10 at garage sale)
Macintosh Powerbook G3 Lombard 15" laptop
iBook G4
Macintosh G5 Tower - with 23" Cinema Display

Various assorted PCs during the years.


53 posted on 05/28/2006 12:31:22 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker
:P its been a fun ride hasn't it? :P

Load"*",8,1

err umm I think thats what it was.. LOL

or

? 5*5 (return)
25

LOL

54 posted on 05/28/2006 12:37:21 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

Load"*",8,1

That would load the first program found on the disk addressed at device 8, subdevice 1

10 Print "hello"
20 goto 10


55 posted on 05/28/2006 12:40:33 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker
yea that would make the letters scroll! I was trying to remember how to do that before i Just took this screen shot!


56 posted on 05/28/2006 12:51:43 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Swordmaker
do you remember the battle of Commodore vs. Atari? OMG.. my neighbor has an atari and he kept tell al of us how much better it was... I guess he was right, it used dos! LOL

They had all these programs that would make fun of Commodore, calling them CamodeDoor and having it on a toilet! LOL

57 posted on 05/28/2006 12:55:53 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Coleus

Are you asking for advice or are you advertising?


58 posted on 05/28/2006 12:59:23 AM PDT by connectthedots
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To: Echo Talon
... guess he was right, it used dos! LOL

Actually it was TOS, Trameil Operating System... after the owner of Atari, Sam Trameil. He bought Atari because he thought Atari owned a little thing called the Amiga computer. What he didn't know was that Atari defaulted on its payment to the owners of Amiga and voided the purchase contract. He owned Atari for three weeks before he learned that they DIDN'T own the Amiga... COMMODORE had stepped in and bought it after the default!!!!

The strange thing was that Sam Trameil was the founder and ex-CEO of Commodore!

59 posted on 05/28/2006 1:07:45 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: Swordmaker

oh wow, I always thought it was dos... I remember my buddy talking about his baud modem and such... LOL


60 posted on 05/28/2006 1:09:59 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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