"I would not want to be in their shoes, no doubt about it. "And yes, shock of shockers, the real world isn't "fair". who'd a thought?"
So because life is not fair, these 3 who appear to be falsely accused of a crime should have to deal with it? I don't agree.
"But these were not innocents playing Canasta.
How is it you know they are not innocent? The information we have seen thus far increasingly seems to indicate they were innocent. In fact, at least 2 may not even have been at the party.
"These guys were an accident waiting to happen. and crime or not, it blew up on them."
Accident waiting to happen? Indictment of the entire team? Guilt by association?
"Crime or not?"
Bizarre statement.
The only issue here is whether or not a crime actually WAS committed - it is most relevant.
I made my original comment because you called the "boys". They are not boys and imply that they were behaving appropriately. They are men, not boys. Free to think and choose. And they chose to behave in ways that were potentially problematic.
One would have to go out and pretend that soliciting two women to your home to strip and whatever is a regular every day affair with no consequences. And while it may happen frequently in such situations, it does not make it smart. And do you know why?...cause stuff like this happens.
Travesty of justice or not, they landed themselves there. Be in denial if you wish, but it is very much both a part of this case and a part of how it came to be. Their behavior has caused the "cloud".
I wonder how many such parties they have had since? I would venture to say zero. Why, because they now know it was stupid. And their lawyers, who get paid to be smart for them, have advised them it would be a bad idea. It doesn't make their lawyers part of a vice squad.
Are they guilty of rape? I don't think so. Are they guilty of stupidity for putting themseleves in a compromising conditions? Absolutely.
Seems that puts me on the wrong "team" to the shoutdown crowd. Like I care.