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Haven't gone to sleep yet; but soon. (Gotta put a turkey in the oven early morning). In re the "did the "civilized side" win; hell of a question. The story isn't over yet. But in re that slice of time? No. But yes. But no.. But yes. (I had ancestors on both sides of the Civil War.)

The North just turned around and has been enacting a different kind of slavery ever since the Civil War. And then there's the west, the oddball cousins of both South and North, somehow thinking its above the "fray" in that matter. When ya get down to it: CA Liberals are highly, absolutely uncivilized.

And now that I'm in the South and picking up more American history than I have my whole life long. The war on slavery was picked just in order to financially cut the legs offa the south. But the South should have just suceeded long ago. Oh )(*&^. I'll be thinking about this for days.. about this "recent unpleasantness" and your question. What if Lee had torched the South before being taken down...