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Duke rape case set for 2007
Toronto Star ^ | May 19, 2006. 07:02 AM | staff

Posted on 05/19/2006 7:17:27 AM PDT by Perdogg

DURHAM, N.C.—One of three Duke University lacrosse players charged with rape wants the case resolved in time for the next school year, his lawyer said in court yesterday. But the judge warned he will not fast-track the proceedings.

The case "is not going to jump ahead of the line and be handled any differently," Superior Court Judge Ronald L. Stephens said at a hearing for sophomore Reade Seligmann.

After the brief hearing, District Attorney Mike Nifong said he does not expect any trial to begin before next year.

(Excerpt) Read more at thestar.com ...


TOPICS: Local News
KEYWORDS: benchavis; duke; dukelax; hanover; ncc; ncnb; nifong; noi; wachovia; wcc
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To: za_claws

The dingbat DA got mad because the defense caught him in a lie? Where did he get off launching a tirade when he was the one who got caught lying?


701 posted on 05/21/2006 8:21:27 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: RecallMoran
Where did he get off launching a tirade when he was the one who got caught lying?

Don't children often have tantrums when caught lying?
702 posted on 05/21/2006 8:32:38 PM PDT by JLS
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To: RecallMoran

What does having an "expletive laden tirade" smack dab in the middle of a courthouse hallway, possibly full of reporters, say about the temperament and mental stability of Nifong?

As Woody Vann told Greta, "You don't want to get on his bad side." Cheshire and Osborn have gotten on Nifong's bad side, and he's thrown any pretense of fairness or a search for truth out the window.


703 posted on 05/21/2006 8:36:41 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: JLS

You know, that's what I was thinking of as well. Interesting that he chose to go off on Sutton when Sutton was supportive of the dingbat DAs campaign. Was Sutton even at that press conference?

Nifong is an amatuer and terribly immature. When things started not going his way, he took his ball, went home, and no he is going to show them! What the heck did he expect the defense to do? Stand there and take it, like the French?


704 posted on 05/21/2006 8:37:20 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: GAgal

The dingbat DA does not have a clue what he is doing in litigation, especially in high profile litigation and his lack of professionalism is apparent. What difference does it make if you are on his "bad side?" What we have seen so far that when someone gets on his "bad side," Nifong throws ethics and common sense overboard to settle the score. Professionals deal with setbacks all the time, the good ones regroup and bounce back.

This trial will be a zoo if this knucklehead pitches a hissy fit when things don't go his way. For the defendants, that is not a bad thing to have an out-of-control DA in front of a jury. Heck, you could build a solid defense on the theory that Nifong is nothing more than a hothead with an office who used it to settle a personal score. Get under his skin in front of the jury and let Nifong hang himself on his own immaturity and unprofessionalism.


705 posted on 05/21/2006 8:43:36 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: RecallMoran

"You know, that's what I was thinking of as well. Interesting that he chose to go off on Sutton when Sutton was supportive of the dingbat DAs campaign. Was Sutton even at that press conference?"

If one could imagine her being Nifongs guy "on the inside", the te,per tantrum could have been staged for public consumption/cover......LOTS of nefarious stuff about this case, so why not what-if everything?


706 posted on 05/21/2006 8:45:28 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: pepperhead

How about if the stoplight pictures first passed through the hands of the person being accused of running the stoplight?


707 posted on 05/21/2006 8:56:32 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: RecallMoran

Sutton:

EDUCATION:
* North Carolina Central University School of Law, Juris Doctor.
* University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, Bachelor of Arts in Communications.

atty profile at:

http://suttonlawoffice.com/_wsn/page2.html


708 posted on 05/21/2006 8:56:34 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Protect the Bill of Rights

Let me make sure I'm clear about that. I've not talked to him about this specific item. I have, however, spent a lifetime of trying to explain technical concepts to him without much success. I've also had the same experience with some of his legal buddies. They've also not had much success explaining legal concepts to me :)


709 posted on 05/21/2006 8:59:28 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: JLS

Nifong also tried to BS the court about the cell phone. At first, he denied that he had possession of a cell phone, then later said that the police did not review it (which would be stunningly incompetent). My impression is that Nifong was trying to be too cute for words (as in he personally did not have it, and would only admit its existence when specifically queried about police possession). What a scoundrel.


710 posted on 05/21/2006 8:59:53 PM PDT by RecallMoran (Recall Brodhead)
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To: Ken H
Heck of a good question. Freepers?
711 posted on 05/21/2006 9:00:19 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: ltc8k6
I saw the condition of the paint on that roof and wondered if the paint on another side of the car was in similar bad condition. That could explain why RS's taxi driver thought it looked white.
712 posted on 05/21/2006 9:02:11 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: RecallMoran

The issue of Nifong being cross examined on the witness stand was briefly discussed within a thread some time ago. Of the ones that commented, the consensus was that he would be, since he is the lead investigator.


713 posted on 05/21/2006 9:02:51 PM PDT by Ken H (off topic: note multiple conjugations of "to be" in last sentence)
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To: Krodg
I'm saying that the Freepers get it too. However, we will not be in the courtroom either as experts, council or jury.
714 posted on 05/21/2006 9:05:08 PM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: RecallMoran

Two former prosecutors withheld evidence in a trial that sent a man to death row, and they only got a written reprimand as a result. There seems to be something very wrong in the NC system.

http://www.newsobserver.com/208/story/244539.html

I'm sure if by some miracle Nifong is ever called to account for his decisions in this case, he too will call his missteps uninternational.


715 posted on 05/21/2006 9:09:16 PM PDT by GAgal
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To: All; GAgal

In my opinion, North Carolina has a bad record in this area. It seems prosectors have so much power. one thing that is unusual is that they control the docket.

that is not to say N.C. has bad Distric Attorneys, but it seems if someone does abuse their position, there is room to do that in North Carolina's system. Good people find their way into those positions too, while others violate the spirit and intent of laws and exploit weaknesses and chasms.

I do not like the whole set up in Durham. I would be willing to say the chances are pretty damn good that Judge Stephens eats lunch with Nifong once a week. Of course, that in itself doesn't mean anything, but it can. certainly, unconsciously the Judge could put more weight behind Nifong's arguments or attach noble movtives to his intent, when then may not be the case.



716 posted on 05/21/2006 9:40:48 PM PDT by Mike Nifong (Any likeness to persons living or dead is entirely coincidental)
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To: RecallMoran
Nifong also tried to BS the court about the cell phone. At first, he denied that he had possession of a cell phone, then later said that the police did not review it (which would be stunningly incompetent).

Yeah all the feminazi/race baiter commentators speculating that Nifong must have something else, some bombshell maybe be surprised when it ends up that he had this cell phone and it turns out to be a defense bombshell in this case.

BTW, this cell phone tells you everything you need to know about this case:

1. Mangum dropped it outside when she fell and apparently did not miss it.

2. The police were not particularly interested in finding it. They took their time getting a warrant to search showing their level of belief of the woman.

3. Nifong after taking over the investigation was apparently not interested in what evidence this cell phone might contain.

4. The defense is demanding to see what it says. Can you imagine a case where the defense is so confident it demands the police look at a cell phone that if there were a rape might contain pictures or textmessages about it.

This cell phone encapsulates the entire case. An out of it stripper drops a cell phone. The police taking her accusation seriously but not believing it takes their time to search for the cell phone. A DA rushing to indict does not bother to check it for evidence one way or the other. [Or maybe he did and knows it hurts his case?] Defendents who know they are completely innocent demand it be looked at because they know any evidence in the cell phone can only help them.
717 posted on 05/21/2006 10:05:30 PM PDT by JLS
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To: JLS

When all of Nifong's actions are viewed objectively, the only logical conclusion which can be drawn is this one:

He wanted to avoid getting any evidence which might be exculpatory, particularly before he got his indictments.


718 posted on 05/21/2006 10:11:07 PM PDT by David Allen (the presumption of innocence - what a concept!)
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To: GAgal

Wow that is a damning article. And of course the NC legal profession rallied around those two slimballs. If they had any character, they would have resigned the bar and gone into some other profession drying cars at a car wash where they could not do the amount of harm they did to this man.


719 posted on 05/21/2006 10:12:29 PM PDT by JLS
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To: David Allen
He wanted to avoid getting any evidence which might be exculpatory, particularly before he got his indictments.

Exactly. I don't see how one can conclude otherwise?

BTW, let me add:

1a. Other many of the woman here quickly noted, after Mangum dropped the cell phone that night and apparently did not miss it right away, she was so tramatized by being brutally raped that she or someone thought to have the service terminated the next day.

It seems to be a very revealing cell phone?
720 posted on 05/21/2006 10:16:05 PM PDT by JLS
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