Duke rape case set for 2007

Toronto Star ^ | May 19, 2006. 07:02 AM | staff

[PeskyOne]

Could this problem of suspending the students before they are proved guilty of a crime also be the result of the practice of 'tenure'? Many one dimensional professors who are misfits in the real world, get tenure at universities and use their misguided political and moral beliefs to indoctrinate young students' minds. Because they have tenure, you can't fire them! In my opinion, a big mistake was made when they allowed this practice, and I have children in the educational field!

[BlueStateDepression]

Mort took that position? Wow, that is saying something when Mort goes so far as to make a statement of that degree.

[daybreakcoming]

HE should be investigated by the State Attorney General of North Carolina.

Agreed but there are probably some connecting dots there also. YOU know what I'ahm talking bout. :o)

Admittedly not Civil Rights knowledgable here, it would seem to me that these boys have had their civil rights violated and the Feds should step in....or at least Jesse>barf

[Steve_Seattle]

"The case "is not going to jump ahead of the line and be handled any differently," Superior Court Judge Ronald L. Stephens said at a hearing for sophomore Reade Seligmann."

So is the delay due to normal court backlog, or some other reason?

[jpl]

Greta Van Susteren reported the black man as saying after court to Reade Seligman, "YOU'RE a dead man walking!"...that definitely sounds like a threat, and that man should have been arrested and charged for threatening the life of Seligman, IMO. I wish I knew the law, because to the average person, it certainly seems like a 'change of venue' is called for in this case.

From the look of things, the New Black Panther pitbulls have clamped their jaws down on these guys, and they're not going to let go no matter what. I think they would follow these guys around no matter where the venue was.

This situation is Bonfire of the Vanities happening all over again.

[Locomotive Breath]

I think that Duke is far from unique in that policy.

[ladyjane]

In addition, these type of racially charged trials always bring up the specter of possible riots.

Oh, that's right, threats of possible riots by the good citizens of Durham should trump the right to a fair and speedy trial of these boys. /sarc

[JLS]

The defense said nothing about pushing ahead of anyone. The judge said something about that.

Durham county can not say our cops are too busy to give Miranda warnings and besides we do not Marandize anyone else. Similarly Durham County can not say, speedy trial, we don't give anyone no stinkin speedy trial.

That Durham routinely denies accused speedy trials does not trump the right of any particular person to a speedy trial. That other defendents routinely waive their speedy trial rights does not mean these guys lose their right to a speedy trial.

So the judge can say any hauty thing he wants about not pushing this trial ahead of others. These guys still have a right to a speedy trial.

[ZULU]

I think that in cases of moral turpitude of a serious nature, the identities of both the accused and the alleged victim should be kept confidential pending the results of a trial.

A grand jury indictment is not tantamount to a conviction.

No doubt the black racialist lobby, as always, has a hand in these cases, but my feelings are now that Nullfang, may have been intimate with the alleged victim and she's got that over him.

[BlueStateDepression]

That would really speak loudly to the scope of the problem wouldn't it?

I find it most ironic that those that scream the loudest about losing liberty are oh so often the very ones doing the very stealing of the liberty they claim to be holding so dear and defending so strongly.

[David Allen]

Exactly! Put investigators watching Kim and Crystal, and their pimp, then gather all the evidence.

Are they going to stop being prostitutes? If so, what are they going to do for the next 6 months? Not buy drugs? Not get drunk or high? Not whore?

They will both screw up big time. There is no way these two women make it to year's end without blowing it.

[You Dirty Rats]

To be fair to the judge for a moment, we don't know how busy the court system in Durham County- given Durham's crime rate, I doubt that this the only criminal trial in town. For all we know setting this case a few months from know would mean bumping 10 cases into next year. No doubt this case will take several weeks to try given the nature of the case so far and you have to make sure that those days are available.

Sounds like some research to determine the length of the docket, average time from indictment to trial, etc. is in order.

[JLS]

If they settle with the accuser, then it hands Nifong a way out of his mess. They are not going to do that.

They most certainly may. They are at risk of decades in prison. They certainly might apologize for calling her names at their house, pay her a bit of money and be done with this. That is why you should never let such settlements make you think that someone is guilty.

[BlueStateDepression]

They will both screw up big time. There is no way these two women make it to year's end without blowing it.

Interesting choice of words in the context of the other ones you typed.......

[BlueStateDepression]

Paying someone money for calling them names? Dang, that would cause alot of folks around here to be obliterated by crushing debt!

[texan75010]

"They will both screw up big time. There is no way these two women make it to year's end without blowing it."....

Blowing it??

Was that a pun?

[Chena]

Among other tombstones in the cemetary of Justice, here lies the "right to a speedy trial" and "innocent until proven guilty". Let us mourn.

[RecallMoran]

Apparently NC has adopted its legal procedures from, I don't know, maybe Nicaragua?

[BlueStateDepression]

I see the democrats railing against GITMO and the administration in part because they are not getting the speedy trial some claim terrorists deserve when they were captured on the field of battle making war on our nations soldiers.

I see democrats disallowing a speedy trial for shite guys accused of rape with what seems to be no evidence at all.


Do I need glasses or is this actually what I am seeing?

[BlueStateDepression]

Shite should read White.