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Microsoft: Set your systems for Vista
ZDnet ^ | May 18, 2006 | Ina Fried

Posted on 05/18/2006 12:27:12 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde

On Thursday, the company kicked off a campaign aimed at helping customers prepare for the new operating system, which is set for a mainstream launch in January. As expected, Microsoft gave details of two programs. The "Vista-capable" program allows machines that meet a minimum set of requirements to tout themselves as able to run the new Windows. Computer makers who meet higher requirements will be able to tout their machines as "Premium Ready," indicating the PCs are able to take advantage of higher-end features, such as Vista's Aero graphics. "There's really no reason to wait until the launch of Windows Vista to start shopping for a PC that can deliver a great Windows Vista experience or to start thinking about upgrading your current PC to windows Vista," product manager Greg Amrofell said in a telephone interview. Microsoft also launched on Thursday a "Get Ready" Web site, which includes an Upgrade Advisor tool to help people determine just how Vista-ready an existing PC is. The downloadable program is designed to tell people which features and versions of Vista their PC is able to run, thereby abstracting some of the complex requirements of Vista. For example, Aero graphics require a certain amount of memory bandwidth--a measurement of PC performance that few people are likely to know about in their machine. The advisor tool will simply say whether a PC will work out or not, rather than focus on specific requirements. That way, customers "don't have to spend time in the footnotes of complex system requirements," said Mike Burk, the PR Manager, Windows Client. That said, Microsoft did publish official minimum requirements for Vista on Thursday, largely matching the Vista-capable specifications. Systems need an 800 MHz processor, 512MB of memory, a 20GB hard drive with 15GB of free space and a CD-ROM drive. That guarantees access to Vista's core features, but not Aero and other premium features. To be classified as Vista-capable, a computer needs an 800MHz processor, 512MB of memory and a DirectX 9-capable graphics card. Premium Ready machines need a 1GHz processor, 128MB of graphics memory, 1GB of system memory, a 40GB hard drive and an internal or external DVD-ROM drive. While Microsoft has provided some clarity on checking a PC for Vista, it's not a straightforward process, said Michael Cherry, an analyst at market research firm Directions on Microsoft. "I don't understand why it has to be this complex," he said. "Why can't this be written up on a one-page piece of paper in a manner that you don't have to be an electrical engineer to understand?" Most shipping PCs should be Vista-capable, Microsoft said. For example, all systems introduced by Dell this year are Vista-capable. The majority of Dell's Vista-capable machines will support Aero graphics and more than three-fourths of its models can be configured to run the fancier graphics. Dell is also offering 17 custom-configured systems that are designed to support Aero. "Our sense is that the vast majority of PCs do meet the requirements for the Vista-capable logo," Amrofell said. As for Premium Ready, he said that "a good number of PCs do meet the bar, and that's going to grow over the next few months." The marketing programs and upgrade tool are designed to ease some of the uncertainty around Vista well ahead of the back-to-school and holiday shopping seasons, the two biggest PC selling times of the year. Vista had long been expected to arrive by the 2006 holidays, but Microsoft said in March that it would not arrive on store shelves until January. Kevin Johnson, head of the business unit that includes Windows, said in an interview with CNET News.com this week that Microsoft is likely to have some kind of discount or upgrade program to help those who buy a PC this holiday season upgrade to Vista. "Yeah, there's likely to be something," Johnson said, without giving specifics.


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To: RadioAstronomer

You can get Quad-sli from falcon-nw :)


61 posted on 05/18/2006 2:59:33 PM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Echo Talon

I keep forgetting about the Home editions. I wouldn't touch them myself. The large memory space might come in handy with media editing.


62 posted on 05/18/2006 3:02:49 PM PDT by js1138 (Well I say there are some things we don't want to know! Important things!")
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To: adorno
I haven't seen a Windows BSOD since 1998 on any of my six computers that I've owned since 1998. They have all run with one form of windows or another.

I cant go back that far... but I have never gotten one with XP, and what few I did get from 95/98 were caused by me monkeying around with the hardware. I for one am looking forward to Vista.

63 posted on 05/18/2006 3:03:50 PM PDT by operation clinton cleanup
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To: Echo Talon

I have done that too. Trying to get to the point where you have to start stepping up the voltage to the CPU in order to get it to boot.

Did you ever see that website where the guys used Flourinert and Liquiud Nitrogen to supercool the CPU and MB? If I remember correctly they were able to get an 800 mhz CPU up to something like 3.2 GHZ.


64 posted on 05/18/2006 3:05:04 PM PDT by Syntyr (Food for the NSA Line Eater -> "terrorist" "bomb" "plot" "kill" "overthrow" "coup de tas")
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To: AntiGuv; Petronski; Quix
Apologies, apologies all around.

I got a little jumpy and forgot to hit preview first.
65 posted on 05/18/2006 3:19:07 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

If that's you in # 65, you're no longer Mr Blonde, are ya?!


66 posted on 05/18/2006 3:20:49 PM PDT by Revolting cat! ("In the end, nothing explains anything.")
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To: antiRepublicrat

I'm with you. I just thought that some people who haven't come around yet might be interested to know what they will need to run Vista. Of course if you get a Mac there is no need to worry about if your computer can run the software.


67 posted on 05/18/2006 3:20:55 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: Revolting cat!

I wish that were me. I wish I could be associated with a show like Arrested Development, but sadly no.


68 posted on 05/18/2006 3:22:25 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: djf
I've had pretty good luck with XP. It is quite a bit faster than 2000 and runs well on a small Pentium II laptop.

Really? WinXP's system requirements are roughly 2X those for Win2K.

Virtual memory paging with Win2K caused so much HD thrashing on my 233-MHz PII laptop maxed-out at 144 MB RAM, that I decided to go back to Win98 SE. (Problem solved.)

I cannot imagine XP could be better. What are your laptop's specs?

69 posted on 05/18/2006 3:23:14 PM PDT by newgeezer (Repeal all Amendments after XV. Yes, ALL of them. Yes, I mean that one, too.)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I build my own. They pretty much smoke any "store-bought" brand (except possibly the very top end Alienware stuff)

I know you build your own from your previous posts. You build bleeding edge. I build what was great two years ago. Just got an Athlon 2500+ processor and an EPOX  8RDA3+ for next to nothing - Gonna have some fun

70 posted on 05/18/2006 3:34:54 PM PDT by dennisw
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To: Echo Talon
Alienware stinks

Which probably explains why Dell has bought up Alienware. Truly a match made in Hell, err Dell. ;)
71 posted on 05/18/2006 3:38:26 PM PDT by mkjessup (The Shah doesn't look so bad now, eh? But nooo, Jimmah said the Ayatollah was a 'godly' man.)
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To: Syntyr

"I like Linux too the only problem I have is it takes too freaking long to install... :)"

i take it you know your telling a lie by your :) face at the end of that.


72 posted on 05/18/2006 3:42:39 PM PDT by postaldave (McCain & Bush, you traitorous !#!$!!s. you two are no different then ted kennedy.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

I'm just funnin' with ya.


73 posted on 05/18/2006 3:55:15 PM PDT by Petronski (I just love that woman.)
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To: Mr. Blonde

No sweat, I should have hit preview several hundred times more than I have, too.


74 posted on 05/18/2006 4:01:04 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: balrog666
It's a lot more secure but only because MS threw in the towel, figured you're an idiot and does what many other modern operating systems do by closing most ports by default and making you approve just about anything. Want to run a system applet? Be prepared to do extra clicks even if you're running as administrator. This should appease the nanny state sorts that think the OS should protect you from yourself. For others it only means carpel tunnel.

Some eye candy stuff. I don't use a Mac but I get the impression a lot of it is already available on the Mac platform.

The way drivers run seems to have been improved and should make things more stable as it's my experience that 3rd party drivers are a major cause of problems in XP.

I installed the February beta just for fun and installed a full suite of programs on it. Some had problems, mostly anti-virus stuff which isn't unusual, they're write AV software so you have to stay on the treadmill and feed the upgrade monkey but applications and other non-AV utilities ran fine.

Bottom line is that I'll probably put it on one box just so I can fire it up and test stuff against it. I may eventually change my mind because I did with all the Windows versions but right now my impression is that it's pretty gay but surprisingly robust and perky for a beta version.

75 posted on 05/18/2006 4:13:57 PM PDT by Proud_texan (I'm gonna break my rusty cage and run)
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To: ArrogantBustard
I met her in a bar once ... I'd been doing shots of tequila all night, and there she was.


76 posted on 05/18/2006 4:19:14 PM PDT by Petruchio (* Censored *)
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To: antiRepublicrat
Given the average speed of computers sold today, even the premium-capable requirements are pretty modest. I'm impressed.

What's there to be impressed about? Looks like nothing but "windows-dressing" to me. They managed to repackage XP and use more CPU, memory and disk space. I'll pass. But it might be a good time to sell a few oz of gold and short MSFT.

77 posted on 05/18/2006 4:32:33 PM PDT by StockAyatollah (Bill Gates = Hi-tech PT Barnum)
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To: Hydroshock
15 gig for the basic install. 40 gig drive for graphics. Unbelieveable ugh.
78 posted on 05/18/2006 4:37:11 PM PDT by JasonC
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To: seppel
After reading about Mr. Gates close friendship with China, I decided to set my systems to Linux.

Linux is the official O/S of the Chicomm government. Gates is just trying to get them to finally respect copyright.

79 posted on 05/18/2006 4:39:52 PM PDT by Golden Eagle (Buy American. While you still can.)
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To: Proud_texan
but right now my impression is that it's pretty gay

LOL. I think that's an adjective normally used to describe Macs. :-) 

80 posted on 05/18/2006 6:46:01 PM PDT by zeugma (Come to the Dark Side... We have cookies!)
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