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Whose God May We Mock
Townhall.com ^ | May 16, 2006 | Pat Buchanon

Posted on 05/16/2006 8:41:28 AM PDT by DeweyCA

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To: Zavien Doombringer

Perhaps you would think it a sin to knowingly marry someone that you could not be there to provide for.
Jesus knew he would not be present after his assumption to care for a child or a wife. He declaired that type of person an infidel. I would think that he would value any women highly enough not to leave them high and dry after he was gone.

He asked another to care for his mother at the end. No mention of a wife, and Mary Mag was present.


21 posted on 05/16/2006 9:41:02 AM PDT by Rhadaghast (Yeshua haMashiach hu Adonai Tsidkenu)
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To: Always Right
"Christianity really is the last acceptable thing to be bigoted against in the US." Well that and/or Republicans.

Highly interchangeable.

22 posted on 05/16/2006 9:44:33 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Got freedom? Thank a veteran)
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To: DeweyCA
In the United States, to deny the Holocaust happened or suggest that it has been exaggerated is not a crime, but marks one down as a social leper.

Pat should know.

23 posted on 05/16/2006 9:49:35 AM PDT by steve-b (A desire not to butt into other people's business is eighty percent of all human wisdom)
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To: Zavien Doombringer

It is said, by Jesus, that marriage makes a man and woman "one" in God's eyes.

If Jesus and Mary married, then they would be one. So is Mary now God?

Also, recheck the wedding at Canaa. Jesus and His guests were invited

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=50&chapter=2&version=31


24 posted on 05/16/2006 9:50:38 AM PDT by jdhighness
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To: winner3000
Will Catholics boycott this movie and ask other Christians to do the same? Will they boycott any future Hanks and Howard movies? Will they heap scorn and shame onto their heads for this bigoted and vicious movie? If not, then whining about it will not be enough.

I totally agree. It's so disappointing that the beloved "Opie" and "Forrest Gump" would participate in this trashing of the religion (Christianity) that has historically freed more people than any other movement in history.

I have never watched a Woody Allen movie since he married his daughter, never an Elizabeth Taylor movie since she broke up Richard Burton's marriage, and never a Roman Polanski movie since he was convicted of child rape -- not even as a rental or on cable, where viewership can be tabulated on the other end.

25 posted on 05/16/2006 9:51:13 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Got freedom? Thank a veteran)
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To: Rhadaghast
Again, all of you who calin to be more knowlegable than me in scripture have not read the part where I said, " I DO NOT BELIEVE JESUS WAS MARRIED". So what part of that do you not understand. I just made a statement that it is pausible that Jesus COULD marry and maintain Deity...
26 posted on 05/16/2006 9:54:04 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: jdhighness

see my 26


27 posted on 05/16/2006 9:54:33 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: DeweyCA
I'm sorry but there'll be no criticizing this book. The book is being placed on the bookshelf under the numbers 810-819.99 in the Dewey Decimal system and therefore through some sort of magic becomes undebatable.

If I were to place it over on that book shelf numbered 900-999 then you would be allowed to criticize it.

But whenever a book is placed under a sign printed with the numbers 810-819.99 then the author can write whatever lies they want about you or anyone you care about and you have to sit there and take it.

Before long this thread will be flooded with responses highlighting this foolishness.

28 posted on 05/16/2006 9:54:50 AM PDT by avg_freeper (Gunga galunga. Gunga, gunga galunga)
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To: DeweyCA
Just curious, I haven't read the book and don't plan on seeing the movie, but will many people who've read the book actually go see the movie? And, apparently, a lot of people have read the book (or at least bought it).

How about Freepers who've read the book: do you plan on seeing the film?

29 posted on 05/16/2006 9:54:57 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: DeweyCA
All gods should be open to mocking. If the gods do not like it, they have it within their wherewithal to do something about it. If they decide to let the mocker continue his mocking, it must be because they have deigned to do so.

In other words, deities should be powerful enough that they do not require mere mortals to carry their water for them.

30 posted on 05/16/2006 9:56:35 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: Trailerpark Badass
There was a book I read in the early eighties.. The Jesus Scrolls...

The Preface stated, "This book is ficticious, but it's intent is to put a spark to the dry tender of your mind."

31 posted on 05/16/2006 9:57:34 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: DeweyCA
The very notion that a work of fiction should in any way be censored is absurd...and against every enlightened principal that this country was founded on.

If ones faith is so frail as to be swayed or insulted by the imaginings of a mere mortal then one should self check their faith to be sure it's not the fiction.

32 posted on 05/16/2006 9:59:33 AM PDT by KDD (A wink is as good as a nod to a blind horse.)
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To: DeweyCA

Ah! If Howard, et al, can make a buck with "Nancy Drew and Da Vinci's Junior Jumble", so what? I am reminded of "The Life of Brian" by Monty Python's crew and the chorus of harrumphing that ensued about that.

Get over yourselves. It's no big deal.

Personally, I'm going to jump on the bandwagon and start shopping a little religio/comedy/gay-coming-of age script that I call "Brokeback Mecca", or "Ho, Ho, Ho-Mohammed".

Starring Gilbert Gottfried as a gay pedophile prophet, and John Goodman as his "right hand man", (running gag throughout the movie), this wacky duo will crack you up with their hijinks and halal-hilarity!

Featuring quotations from the late, great, Ayatollah Khomeini (played by Whoopi Goldberg), like:

"The meat of horses, mules, or donkeys is not recommended. It is strictly forbidden if the animal was sodomized while alive by a man. In that case, the animal must be taken outside the city and sold."
(http://www.homa.org/Details.asp?ContentID=2137352826&TOCID=2083225445)

Buddha! There's 10 minutes of hyuks in that bit alone as every person in Iran hikes out of town with flocks and herds of animals to sell! Put some lipstick and eyeshadow on them and audiences'll laugh 'til their sides ache!

A few "gays should BE stoned, not GET stoned", cracks and we're almost there.

Throw in some anti-Christian stuff and a few Jew jokes, and it's gold! Guaranteed!

Now, if I can only get a fatwah whipped on this little baby...


33 posted on 05/16/2006 10:26:06 AM PDT by heldmyw
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To: nathanbedford
>>>>>>>Funny. 13 posts and I have yet to read anything from the A-men-chorus-for-Israel standing up for anti-bigotry when it comes to Christianity. I mean the same Freepers who swarm every time an article (of gasp, Buchannon) is posted and who blast him for an anti-semite.

You are exactly right.

34 posted on 05/16/2006 10:30:14 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: DeweyCA

Thanks for posting this excellent Buchanan column.


35 posted on 05/16/2006 10:30:50 AM PDT by Thorin ("I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.")
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To: Zavien Doombringer

"I for one do not believe Jesus was married... But even if he was, where is the sin in that? Marriage an institution blessed by God."

Matthew 19:12 (New International Version)

For some are eunuchs because they were born that way; others were made that way by men; and others have renounced marriage[a]because of the kingdom of heaven. The one who can accept this should accept it."

"I am a Bible believing Christian, but there are a few things that leave to question. Who's wedding was it at Canaan? In those days, the groom was responsible for the wine. Why would Mary turn to Jesus and say we are out of wine?"

Jesus was invited to the party.

"Is it possible, yes... but I don't believe it.

"Where is Childbirth a sin. Or having offspring? After all Jesus is the Son of God and was born from woman...

"If Jesus was married and had marital relations and had sired offspring... where is the sin in that?

"It is not whether it is a sin to have children or not. Not all things that are legal/lawful are not permissable for every person:

1 Corinthians 10:23 (King James Version)

All things are lawful for me, but all things are not expedient: all things are lawful for me, but all things edify not.

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In my honest opinion, Jesus had certain legal requirements in remaining single and childless. One of which is that it mad the body of Christ able to legally take the role of His bride and also to inherit the blessing that go with it:

Isaiah 53:12 (King James Version)

Therefore will I divide him a portion with the great, and he shall divide the spoil with the strong; because he hath poured out his soul unto death: and he was numbered with the transgressors; and he bare the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.




36 posted on 05/16/2006 10:39:59 AM PDT by Preachin' (Enoch's testimony was that he pleased God: Why are we still here?)
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To: Preachin'

Your statement just verified the reason why I do not believe Jesus was married.


37 posted on 05/16/2006 10:47:02 AM PDT by Zavien Doombringer (Mr. Franklin, what form of customes did you create in Tiajunna? A beeber, Madam, if you can stune it)
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To: winner3000

You are so right. And it breaks my heart to say so.


38 posted on 05/16/2006 11:22:17 AM PDT by red irish (Gods Children in the womb are to be loved too!)
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To: DeweyCA
the best-selling novel of the 21st century

LOL Little early to be making that statement about any book.

39 posted on 05/16/2006 11:24:28 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: Zavien Doombringer
But even if he was, where is the sin in that?

I haven't seen anyone say that being married is a sin. The issue is that the DaVinci Code tries to deny the diety of Christ and make him human only.

40 posted on 05/16/2006 11:27:58 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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