Posted on 05/16/2006 8:18:47 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
I've watched the debate over immigration with some interest. When I heard President Bush was going to address the nation, I hoped he would be able to bridge some differences, or at least take some steps to do that.
Sadly, from what I've seen from some, not all, on FR and TV and talk radio is a lot more anger from people who continue to see the President as the enemy of America.
He's been honest and straightforward about his position on immigration: he's wanted a guest worker program for a long time. The administration has apparently sent back 6,000,000 illegals in the past five years and increased by 66% the funding for the border--or something like that, I forget the details.
He has been stellar in the War on Terror and tax cuts. We've not be re-attacked in five years and the economy is by any reasonable measure BOOMING.
I can't understand why so many see him as an enemy to the state.
The 11,000,000 illegals didn't all come in "under his watch". He wants them to earn citizenship, and he has pledged to double border agents and funding by the end of 2008.
This man is America's enemy?
I was sad to hear a conservative pundit gripe "this is too little too late" last night. So what is the choice? Vote Democrat?? Vote third party? You may as well vote Democrat, because that is what will happen.
Sorry, I refuse to see George Bush as the enemy. That title is reserved for Democrats in the world of politics.
Careful now, you might get accused of being a spammer.
He doesn't do 100% of everything I want done, therefore, he is the enemy. /sarcasm
Honestly, while he isn't the enemy, he is certainly not acting like a conservative. Reagan had the uncanny ability to blend politics with conservatism. He knew how to advance conservatism as a means to political gain. Bush I ran away from conservatism like the country clubber he was. While W is not his father, he nonetheless treats conservatism as something to run away from/mutually exclusive from a means for political gain. He acts like he has to hide the ball to get the American people to vote for and support a conservative agenda. It is a shame he didn't get the message that conservatism wins the day more often than not.
I thought it was President Bush that made the Minutemen along the border the enemy.
Fortunately for us conservatives, President Bush has delivered time and again on issues important to conservatives. Only certain myopic people struggle to realize that.
Oh, come on, Vicente is his BESTEST FRIEND !!!
That was no conservative. That was Michelle Malkin.
Malkin is a reactionary who wrote an entire book praising FDR for confining Japanese-American citizens behind barbed wire during WWII.
She thinks we ought to do the same thing to Muslims.
She has an audience who loves red meat, and she gives 'em all the blood they want.
Well said sir. Total agreement here.
Your saying that how you feel represents all 63 million votes?
you go SoFlo
Agreed. I expect it from some when the thread has to do with illegal immigration but there are some that have to inject into most every thread. Many of them don't come right out and openly critcize the President on non related threads, they just get their little digs in, it gets old.
BS, I call BS.
Oh, thats ok, our troll detection is getting better and better each day. They will appear soon, because they cant help themselves. Most of the Bush detractors are simply using their computers to mentally masturbate. Its less about Bush, then it is about them basking in 'brilliance' of their negative posts.
Its always the same:"I've supported this President, but he's lost me over the border issue." or "CLOSE THE BORDERS NOW!" or some other statement designed to show that lacking all of the resources, issues, briefings and political considerations that the President deals with and they DONT, they obviously are smarter, better informed and more able to decide what is best for America.
Yet, they dont run for office themselves.....why is that?
Running for office, means that you might have to go outside once in a while.
He has been a blatant liar about other things, but not immigration, just an irritating doublespeaker. The problem is, most of us were never with him on this issue. So we are all being consistent. Since he has all the power and we have only the power to complain really loudedly, you won't mind if we continue with our constitutional right to be dissatisfied, will you?
That six million number is like talking of Vivaldi's 350 concerti for solo instruments: He didn't write 350 concerti, he wrote one concerto 350 times. We didn't deport six million, we sent the same ones back over and over. And that's even if you believe that preposterous number.
Sorry, Peach, but I demonstrated on another thread that, first of all, arrests for hiring illegals are way down during the Bush Admin, as Spiff has noted - the link you provide shows only 159 arrests, and that is what matters, not investigations - a lot of investigations were stopped due to political pressure. And second, the Pew study you cite shows an uptick again by 2004, and serious anecdotal evidence shows that Bush's talk of a guest worker program has significantly increased illegal immigration over the last year or so.
Ding ding ding!! We have a winner!
Something we can all agree on!
I'd take a winning lottery ticket for, say, a "measly" $2 million - more than enough for comfort without the hassles of more than that.
Or, better yet, I wouldn't take all the money in the world for what I have now - my family, health, friends, job, etc.
A bit off topic but just a little perspective from little ol' me.
:)
I'm in total agreement. If he were able to be elected to a third term, then I would be out there stomping just as hard as I did in 2004 to keep him in office. He's a good President and I have total faith in that he will do the right thing.
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