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To: NYer
Catholics are victims of an offense. The one offended cannot have his last right taken away, which is to express his point of view.

OK - got my flame retardant suit on - here goes.

Do you think those hundreds of thousands of people, in the history of the Church, who did dare to voice their opinions and became victims - dead - who had their "last right taken away," for their "offense" are looking down and saying: "hmmm - good thing marshmallowing people at the stake isn't allowed now."

I would like to have seen this level of condemnation over their pedophile priests - whom they have known about and protected for generations and only took some action after being forced too. (There were many "victims of an offense" - little victims - for decades and decades...and they were not protected. Only the perpetrators and the Church were protected, with the perps simply shifted to other, unsuspecting parishes.)

Two things: "People who live in glass houses..." and

"As ye have done until the least of these, my children...

12 posted on 05/15/2006 4:23:56 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: maine-iac7

Nice strawman you raise there...


13 posted on 05/15/2006 4:26:06 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: maine-iac7
"I would like to have seen this level of condemnation over their pedophile priests - whom they have known about and protected for generations and only took some action after being forced too. (There were many "victims of an offense" - little victims - for decades and decades...and they were not protected. Only the perpetrators and the Church were protected, with the perps simply shifted to other, unsuspecting parishes.)"

No flames from me. I wish others here would buy a clue.
16 posted on 05/15/2006 4:31:27 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: maine-iac7
"hmmm - good thing marshmallowing people at the stake isn't allowed now.

Hmmmm Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by Catholics?..... The Salem witch trials...Catholics? 2000 years of history?

You, the guy in the flame retardant suit... take 5 minutes and list all the Catholic atrocities.

17 posted on 05/15/2006 4:31:27 PM PDT by Bob Eimiller (Kerry, Kennedy, Pelosi, Leahy, Kucinich, Durbin Pro Abort Catholics Excommunication?)
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To: maine-iac7
I would like to have seen this level of condemnation over their pedophile priests - whom they have known about and protected for generations and only took some action after being forced too. (There were many "victims of an offense" - little victims - for decades and decades...and they were not protected. Only the perpetrators and the Church were protected, with the perps simply shifted to other, unsuspecting parishes.)

While I agree with you in condemning pedophile priests... better yet, kicking them out of the Church as soon as the Church finds out resonates with me, you're confusing the actions of some in the clergy or the actions of some Catholics with Catholicism. We need a notice here for the purpose of clarification: “the actions and views expressed by some clerics and some Catholics in general, do not necessarily convey the Catholic teachings instituted by Jesus Christ.

Confusing and perverting the teachings of Jesus Christ as the Catholic Church faithfully follows God’s written word - the purpose of this movie - is the crux of the problem.

As the Catechism says: “the Church, to whom the transmission and interpretation of Revelation is entrusted, does not derive her certainty about all revealed truths from the holy Scriptures alone. Both Scripture and Tradition must be accepted and honored with equal sentiments of devotion and reverence'."

Tradition meaning: Priesthood, Confessional, Mass, Penance, etc. which by no means contradict Scripture.

People are free to see the movie, and those who don't agree with it are free to express their opinion.

61 posted on 05/15/2006 7:34:01 PM PDT by Victoria Delsoul
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To: maine-iac7

So, because some Catholics in the history of the Church have committed egregious sins (and all humans other than Our Lord and Lady have committed sins by the way), it is perfectly acceptable to make up lies and attribute absolutely any horrible thing you want to the Catholic Church or a Catholic organization like Opus Dei? If you are a Protestant or an Atheist, can I make up anything I want about you and turn it into a fictional movie using your name just because some Protestants or some Atheists have committed horrific crimes?


81 posted on 05/16/2006 4:26:18 AM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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