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The Difference Between Fallen Angels, Demons, Aliens, Jedi, and the Watchers
The Watcher Files ^ | By Sherry Shriner

Posted on 05/12/2006 8:24:27 PM PDT by restornu

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To: S0122017

These days, in some places, even finding a "nice person" qualifies as a near miracle.....:)


I never said that I automatically assume every act of kindness by a random stranger was of divine origin.

I've simply had some pretty strange encounters that my [unfortunately] over-analytical/logical mind can't wrap itself around, otherwise.


81 posted on 05/15/2006 5:37:17 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

There is also demonic influence and demonic possession of the soul or thinking faculties of man. For the beleiver in Christ, we are sealed with His ministry and indwelt by Him.

This is not yet the case for the unbeliever.

Considering how many different people there are in our own understanding and how many different species in the zoo, I sometimes wonder how many times we might be exposed to different demons and simply associate their presence with a different human perspective, when in reality we might actually encounter something far more sinister which we have been given ample warning to discern.

On the other hand, when you do bump into one and it is obvious, there isn't much room for doubt.


82 posted on 05/15/2006 5:38:44 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: ovrtaxt

Movie info so you know what to look for;

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0060164/


83 posted on 05/15/2006 5:40:29 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: restornu

Interesting read.

FWIW some of it is indeed true, but also some of the article, I would disagree with based upon Scriptural doctrine.

It's been said that everything happens for a reason in God's plan. Whether or not all things are per His plan might be arguable, though. If all things are so included, then one has to wonder the significance of so much scifi that overlaps into spiritual domains.

I've also read some interesting posits regarding mythology and the mythologies from various different cultures and how its basis is incredibly consistant with Scripture if one follows them closely from a Christain perspective.


84 posted on 05/15/2006 5:46:09 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr

I've known people who, to the outward appearance, looked to be the most upstanding, finest pillars of the community imaginable yet I felt an icy chill of dread run down my spine when meeting them.

Occasionally, years later, what I 'felt' was borne out when they were arrested for some crime or other.
[usually involving children]

I can't really recall getting that 'feeling' off anyone obviously or socially considered "bad", such as street beggars or the like.

It's mostly from the "good" people.

Odd, isn't it?


[then again, it makes more sense to hide in plain sight, I reckon]







85 posted on 05/15/2006 5:49:17 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander

Gauss chuckled...


86 posted on 05/15/2006 5:56:25 AM PDT by Cvengr
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To: Cvengr

LOL!


[we'll both get EMP-ed for this].....;D


87 posted on 05/15/2006 5:58:07 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: Salamander
I've known people who, to the outward appearance, looked to be the most upstanding, finest pillars of the community imaginable yet I felt an icy chill of dread run down my spine when meeting them.

I say the witness of the Holy Spirit was strong in you at those moments!

Some of us who were born before 1970 have the privillage to read old wise tales etc and ledengs from others countries than a period came it was so poopooed.

but I got a feeling much is still with us and our ignorants won't make it go away, but leave us vulnerable or subjected too!

That is why praying and reading the scriptures daily is vital in evenyone life to fortify and to put on the armor of God and exercise discernment!

88 posted on 05/15/2006 6:24:30 AM PDT by restornu ("I teach them correct principles and let them govern themselves." ~ Joseph Smith)
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To: restornu

I wish I had your knowledge....:)


89 posted on 05/15/2006 7:18:27 AM PDT by Salamander (Cursed With Second Sight)
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To: ovrtaxt

Much agree. Just read some good stuff in a Christian book that I've suspected for a long time but had scant evidence of. Will hopefully be able to post it when I quit wrestling with this computer. About ready to lay hands on it!

Thanks for you kind and spot on post.


90 posted on 05/15/2006 8:17:34 AM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: S0122017
They were giants or Nephilim. Og, the King of Bashan, had a bed that was 13 to 15 feet long

I have always wondered about that. Just cause his bed is that long, doesnt say much about the length of Og does it? My bed is longer than I am aswell. And maybe it was a royal bed that he inherit. Or maybe it is that long cause it's a sign of royalty. You know, "My bed is longer than yours" stuff.



I read in the gnostic book The Canticles of Togarmah and Anamim concerning Og The King of Bashan: "Thus sayeth the Lord of Mahalaleel concerning the seed of Bashan, I shall smite the seed that thy male offspring and they shall be barren " (T&A 2:45). Apparently, Og was overcompensating and the giants soon died out.

Og's bed was long because he knew he was very impotent! (rimshot)
91 posted on 05/15/2006 9:08:48 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: S0122017; genefromjersey

You can cross-reference my Og of Bashan point with the Pseudo-Nestorian text (translated into Latin) entitled "Omnibus Coitus" as well as the ancient sacred scrolls of "King Testicles of Cerne at Myrina's Well" and "Hercules Jones and the Water Nymphs"


92 posted on 05/15/2006 9:45:06 AM PDT by sully777 (wWBBD: What would Brian Boitano do?)
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To: S0122017

No sweat.

Am going to post, hopefully, some excerpts from a new book I've been reading on the topic. Some findings of a couple of researchers have confirmed a hunch I've had for a couple of decades, at least.

If my own computer will continue to function much at all, I hope to get it done today.

BTW, if you had been writing to me, I wouldn't know which book out of over maybe 75 or more that I've read on the subject that you might be referring to.

It started out as a hobby related to scifi interest. Then my relative reported some details of his former job seeing the craft come and go routinely. Then I began to recognize some probable potential for it all relating to Biblical end times prophecies.

It's an abiding interest but not an all consuming one.

Besides, I need to plant a Thompson seedless grape today--after I build a raised bed for it.

Cheers . . . Qx borrowing JM's computer


93 posted on 05/15/2006 10:15:29 AM PDT by JockoManning (Listen Online http://www.klove.com)
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To: restornu
The following excerpts are from:

ALIEN INTRUSION
By
Gary Bates

For critical discussion, review and research fair use purposes.

I have had a hunch for at least 3 decades that is finally confirmed by research reported in this book.

I’m about 3/4ths the way through the book. It’s a pretty good summary of the field to date. It is from a Christian perspective. I suspect he’s going to end up stating that ET’s are not critters from other galaxies per se but are fallen angels, demons etc.

I’m still not 100% convinced that 100% of what folks observe with UFO’s are ONLY demons/fallen angels. I could easily imagine that some of the “races” are, in fact, critters from other galaxies and worlds who have been coerced/pressed into service of “the prince and power of the air”—satan.

Some sources over the years have asserted that at least some of the common greys are bioengineered ‘suits’ housing demons. I could easily believe that. And, I do believe that 99% or more of the “races” involved are under satan’s control, influence, orders. That would include those which pretend to be benign.

Virtually all the races I’ve read of have been deceptive and caught in serious lies. Then there’s the very abusive treatment humans experience at their hands. So, I think that’s been a fairly easy call. It has not been widely known until recently, that there are routinely many horrific human mutilations virtually identical to the cattle mutilations.

Like the cattle mutilations, human individuals are taken up, one or both eyes are cut out; genitals are cut out including the anus; Every drop of blood is drained—evidently by an incredibly precise laser tool which somehow cuts between cells . . . etc. all while the person is alive and conscious as long as that’s possible given the injuries. Some sources have insisted that the ET’s have an addictive preference to some biochemicals present in their victims when fear and pain are intensified. Lovely critters . . . NOT!

In How to Defend Yourself Against Alien Abduction

By Ann Druffel, the key method showing the most success is to get overtly angry INSTANTLY at the first slight hint of an abduction about to begin. Otherwise, the paralysis effect sets in and the person is immobilized and unable to express anger at all or effectively. I have also read another source or two note that Pentecostals/Charismatics who instantly begin praying intensely in tongues have stopped abductions.

In Alien Intrusion, the author relates a study by a couple of researchers which uncovered another means of preventing or stopping an alien abduction. First, a bit of background from page 272:

“Abduction researcher and hypnotherapist Donna Higbee became alarmed at the dramatic change in the attitude of people who had undergone an abduction experience. She wrote (Qx broke 1 paragraph into 3):

I noticed a drastic change . . . in the attitudes of several of the abductees from one meeting to the next. People who had been traumatized all their lives by ongoing abductions and had only anger and mistrust for their non-human abductors suddenly started saying they had been told/shown that everything that has happened to them was for their own good, that the abductors are highly spiritual beings and are helping them (the abductee) to evolve spiritually.

By accepting this information, the abductees stopped fighting abduction and instead became passive and controlled. When I checked with other researchers, I found that this was a pattern that was repeating itself over and over again around the country. I became concerned that abductees were accepting these explanations from entities that we know can be deceitvul . . . use virtual reality scenarios to implant images into abductees’ head, and manipulate and abuse.

I wrote an article for the MUFON UFO Journal (September 1995) and encouraged abductees to seriously think about what they were accepting as their truth, in light of the evidence, not the explanations offered them by these non-human entities.” 3

3 “New Abductee Trend,” , August 27, 2003”

To be continued in the next post

94 posted on 05/15/2006 12:59:36 PM PDT by Quix ( PREPARE . . . PRAY . . . PLACE your trust, hope, faith and life in God's hands moment by moment)
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To: restornu

This marginal-, apocalyptic-, far out-, fringe-Christian stuff is different from the beliefs held by the Iranian Mullahs and the Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad because...............


95 posted on 05/15/2006 1:07:24 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (The Fourth Estate is a Fifth Column!!!!!!!!!)
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To: S0122017
I just think there is no reason to assume every nice person must be something other than human.

You're making a pretty absolute statement that I never said. I meet nice people every day- and they're simply nice people.

But I have had a few bizarre encounters that certainly couldn't be proven as an angelic visitation, nevertheless they were memorable for certain reasons. To those with eyes to see and ears to hear, sometimes you can perceive things beneath the surface.

96 posted on 05/15/2006 1:11:02 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: ovrtaxt
But I have had a few bizarre encounters that certainly couldn't be proven as an angelic visitation, nevertheless they were memorable for certain reasons. To those with eyes to see and ears to hear, sometimes you can perceive things beneath the surface.

True.
97 posted on 05/15/2006 1:21:42 PM PDT by S0122017
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To: sully777

lol WHERE are you getting that? I'm cracking up over here!

Anyway, David and his men contributed to the giants' rarity by killing Goliath and his mutant brothers. I think he had four, if I remember correctly.


98 posted on 05/15/2006 1:22:32 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: DoctorMichael

........there's no mandate to wipe out Israel and all Jews, and create a worldwide caliphate, by threat of death, under one demon deity, Allah.


99 posted on 05/15/2006 1:27:43 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (My donation to the GOP went here instead: http://www.minutemanhq.com/hq/index.php)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
"We Watchers do not believe in silly things like space aliens. Vampires are another matter, entirely."

What about killer snot monsters from outer space?

100 posted on 05/15/2006 1:33:44 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (Chloe rocks)
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