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The Top Ten Da Vinci Code Distortions
CWA ^ | 5/10/2006 | Robert Knight

Posted on 05/12/2006 4:00:22 PM PDT by Caleb1411

Dan Brown's murder mystery novel presents a problem for Christians. A 2005 Canadian survey showed that one-third of those who have read the book believe that it is factual.( 1 ) The Da Vinci Code has sold more than 42 million copies. The film version starring Tom Hanks is opening on May 19 in the United States.

Serious Christians will see through the many lies and historical fictions that Brown plants throughout the book, but millions will believe that this profoundly dishonest book contains at least some "truth" about Jesus and the church.

The truth is that Brown is peddling one of the oldest known and easily discredited heresies - Gnosticism - and that his claims are refuted by the rich history of Christian writing, beginning with the Gospels themselves and extending to early church figures, such as Ignatius (105 A.D.) and Tertullian (200 A.D.). Brown's claims about alleged clues planted in Leonardo Da Vinci's paintings are also easily refuted by art historians.

Several books have been written about the many factual errors and ludicrous assertions in The Da Vinci Code, and the brief list of problems with Brown's book here is the tip of the iceberg. But we hope this proves useful in any discussion with people who are curious and wondering how much of the book and film is true.

Brown often speaks through his fictional hero, religious symbologist Robert Langdon, and a fictional historian, Leigh Teabing ("The Bible is a product of man, my dear, not God," Leabing declares. [p. 231]), as well as through allegedly secret documents hidden for centuries from church zealots.

Brown notes that the Wiccan symbol (also adopted by Satanists), a five-pointed star, is a "pentacle," a sign of the divine feminine nature as embodied by the goddess, whose spirit rules the universe. Virtually any representation of the star is a sign of the goddess cult, even iambic pentameter meter in poetry, Brown asserts.

Also, "Early Jewish tradition involved ritualistic sex. In the Temple, no less … men seeking spiritual wholeness came to the Temple to visit priestesses - or hierodules - with whom they made love and experienced the divine through physical union" (309). No reputable rabbi would validate this ludicrous assertion, which defies God's law as set forth in the Torah, the first five books of the Bible.

The Holy Grail itself turns out to be the bones of Mary Magdalene, supposedly buried under the glass pyramid at the Louvre Museum in Paris. On the very last page of the book, Langdon, upon realizing he is near the bones of the "goddess," falls to his knees in reverence.

If the litany of historic "facts" in The Da Vinci Code were regarded as fictitious, we could ignore them. But Brown himself in several interviews, including on NBC's The Today Show,( 2 ) has claimed that the book is factual, and many people without Biblical moorings are being fooled into thinking that they have been given "secret knowledge" suppressed by a corrupt church.

By including so many falsehoods, including the underlying premise, Brown breaks the first rule of historical fiction, according to Paul Maier, the Russell H. Seibert Professor of Ancient History at Western Michigan University. Maier notes that in a historical novel, readers expect fictional characters in the foreground, but "the reader expects the background to be credible and accurate…. It isn't there."( 3 )

For example, World War II novels do not have the Allies losing and the Nazis winning. And Civil War novels do not date the Battle of Gettysburg in 1812. Brown's historical errors make these look like trifles. Here are just a few.

1) CLAIM: Jesus was merely a man, not God. Brown says that the "pagan" Roman emperor Constantine created the "myth" that Jesus was resurrected after being crucified only to help consolidate Constantine's power in his empire, and that the church previously regarded Jesus as a mere mortal (231-234).

ANSWER: Constantine, who converted to Christianity and ended Roman persecution of Christians, convened the Council of Nicea in 325, but only to sort out some differences among church leaders, all of whom believed that Jesus was divine. Constantine is also considered a saint by the Eastern Orthodox Church. All early church historians referred routinely to Christ's divinity, death and resurrection, including Ignatius (105 A.D.), Clement (150 A.D.), Justin Martyr (160 A.D.), Irenaeus (180 A.D.), and Tertullian (200 A.D.).( 4 ) Even secular writers such as Pliny the Younger, corresponding with the Roman Emperor Trajan, described Christians worshipping Jesus as God Incarnate.( 5 )

Furthermore, the Apostle Paul, who wrote during the 50s A.D., provided the first Christian creed in 1 Corinthians 15:3-5:

"For I delivered to you first of all that which I also received: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, and that He was buried, and that He rose again the third day according to the Scriptures, and that He was seen by Cephas, then by the twelve."

2) CLAIM: The Council of Nicea defined Jesus as God in "a close vote at that." Furthermore, Constantine chose all the books for inclusion in the Bible as we know it (231).

ANSWER: The Council of Nicea, which took no votes, was convened by Constantine with Christian leaders across the empire mainly to reiterate support for the extant four Gospels and the Epistles. The Council dispensed with the theories of Arius (father of Arianism), who claimed that Jesus, while divine, was a created being who then co-created the universe with God the Father. The main question was whether Jesus was begotten or made. Jesus' divinity, death and resurrection were not in question. Only two of 318 clerics at the Council did not sign the Nicene Creed.

"The Nicene Creed put in precise philosophical and theological language what had been expressed in more general terms for years," comments Dr. Darrell L. Bock, professor of New Testament Studies at Dallas Theological Seminary. "It also affirmed which texts taught such views. What is more, the four Gospels highlighted at this council had been solidly established and recognized in these communities for more than a century before Nicea."( 6 )

3) CLAIM: The four New Testament Gospels (the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John) comprise a false account that excludes numerous ancient writings that tell a different and more truthful story.

ANSWER: Brown bases his challenge of Biblical authority on a group of 52 books collectively called the Gnostic Gospels, discovered in 1945 in Nag Hammadi, Egypt. All were written more than a century after the Biblical Gospels were written. None of these books has any tie to witnesses in Christ's time, unlike the Gospels themselves, which are eyewitness accounts. "There are no written Gospels from the same time frame (the first century A.D.) that are even in the picture," says Gary Habermas, professor of New Testament Studies at Liberty University. "In the Gnostic canon, we don't have 'gospels,' we don't have stories of Jesus that are even competing."( 7 )

4) CLAIM: The Da Vinci Code is based on fact.

Here's the actual beginning of the book:

"FACT:

The Priory of Scion - a European secret society founded in 1099 - is a real organization. In 1975 Paris's Bibliotheque Nationale discovered parchments known as Les Dossiers Secrets, identifying numerous Members of Sion, including Sir Isaac Newton, Botticelli, Victor Hugo, and Leonardo Da Vinci."( 8 )

ANSWER: Pierre Plantard, a French anti-Semite fraud, created the "Priory of Sion" in 1956, not 1099, and the documents were found to be counterfeits. There is no evidence that any of these famous men he cites were involved in any secret society. Sir Isaac Newton, in fact, was a devout Christian, not a member of a goddess-based cult as Brown spins it. Plantard, who did prison time for fraud, confessed to the document hoax in a French court in 1993. He also claimed that he was the rightful king of France because he was a direct descendant of Mary Magdalene. He died in disgrace in 2000.( 9 )

5) CLAIM: Jesus did not die on the cross but fled Jerusalem, married Mary Magdalene and fathered children with her. Brown alleges that their descendants constituted a royal bloodline that fathered the kings of France. Not only that, Brown claims the church was led not by Peter or Paul but by Mary Magdalene, whose role allegedly was covered up by a ruthless and murderous Catholic Church.

ANSWER: Jesus' crucifixion and reappearance after the resurrection are perhaps the best-documented theological events in history, with literally hundreds of eyewitnesses. The Roman pagan historian Flavius Josephus recorded the event this way:

He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him.( 10 )

The nonsense about Jesus marrying Mary Magdalene and having children with her came from the Plantard forgeries and the Gnostic gospels of Phillip and "Mary Magdala." Brown has Robert Langdon say, "Sophie, the historical evidence supporting this is substantial" (254).

Teabing adds, "Yes, Mary Magdalene was the womb that carried His royal lineage. The Priory of Sion, to this day, still worships Mary Magdalene as the Goddess, the Holy Grail, the Rose, and the Divine Mother" (255).

There is no evidence to suggest that Mary Magdalene was anything more than she is portrayed in the Gospels - a woman whom Jesus delivered from demonic possession and who went on to become one of His most faithful followers. She was the first witness to the empty tomb (John 20: 1-2) and Jesus' resurrection (John 20: 11-18). The main "evidence" that she was somehow romantically involved with Jesus is a passage from the fraudulent Gnostic Gospel of Phillip (written in 205 A.D., long after Phillip was martyred), which says that Jesus "often" kissed her. Though Brown adds that it was "on the mouth," (51) the text is unclear in the original. There is no suggestion of a sexual relationship in this or any of the other Gnostic texts. However, in contrast, the Apostle Paul advised early Christians to greet each other with a holy kiss - a mark of affection and spiritual bonding, not a sexual or sensual act.

"Even these [Gnostic] documents don't come out and say that Jesus was married to Mary Magdalene. You still have to read between the lines, and the way that Dan Brown does that still does not hold up to scrutiny," says Lee Strobel, co-author of Exploring the Da Vinci Code.( 11 )

Dallas Theological Seminary's Bock puts it this way:

Mary was not married to Jesus. In my office there are thirty-eight volumes of early church documents, each of several hundred pages, double columns, in small print. The fact that out of all this material, only two texts can be brought forward as even ancient candidates for the theory shows how utterly unlikely it is.( 12 )

6) CLAIM: Mary Magdalene is pictured in The Last Supper. Leonardo allegedly planted clues in his works concerning the "goddess" Mary Magdalene, including his second most famous work (after the Mona Lisa). Brown says the figure to Jesus' right in The Last Supper is not the apostle John but is really Mary Magdalene. He says the feminine appearance of the figure is unmistakably that of a woman.

ANSWER: If that figure is Mary Magdalene, then Leonardo inexplicably left out the apostle John. The youngest disciple, John was often portrayed in a feminine manner to convey youth, as is seen in many stained glass portraits in European cathedrals. Amy Welborn, author of De-coding Mary Magdalene: Truth, Legend, and Lies, says no credible art historian has asserted that the John figure in The Last Supper is really Mary Magdalene, and there is no evidence in Leonardo's own journals that he intended the figure to be that of Mary, not John.( 13 )

7) CLAIM: The Catholic organization Opus Dei (The Work of God) has an inner network of zealous members who would do anything to keep people from discovering that Christianity's central claims are fraudulent. The chief murderer in The Da Vinci Code is a self-flagellating Opus Dei "monk."

ANSWER: Opus Dei, which Brown correctly notes was founded in 1928, has no monks, although it does have "numeraries" of both sexes who pledge celibacy and live in single-sex centers. Opus Dei was created by Catholic priest Josemaria Escriva, who was beatified in 1992, 17 years after his death. Escriva's stated purpose was to energize lay Catholics into taking their faith more seriously. There is no evidence that Opus Dei members have committed illegal acts to further any secret agenda or that self-flagellation is practiced by more than a minuscule portion of its members. Although Brown appears to exculpate the organization at the end of the book (428), the overall impression he leaves is that of a dangerously powerful organization which should be watched. Even liberal TIME magazine did a cover story in its April 26, 2006, edition( 14 ) that absolves Opus Dei, exposing Brown's Da Vinci Code portrayal of the group as a hatchet job.

8) CLAIM: The "sacred feminine" was at the heart of the early church, but was ruthlessly suppressed. Subsequently, the church has been at war with women and has oppressed them at every turn. Langdon says, "It was man, not God, who created the concept of 'original sin,' whereby Eve tasted of the apple and caused the downfall of the human race. Woman, once the sacred giver of life, was now the enemy" (238).

ANSWER: Once again (and throughout the book), Brown is calling Scripture a colossal lie. Far from oppressing women, the church has proved to be a liberating force. Women have achieved unprecedented status as equals in nations where Christianity has had an impact. Jesus made a point of honoring women among his followers, and the women were the first to discover the empty tomb and to tell the other believers. The Apostle Paul instructs women to "submit" to their husbands as leaders of the family, but he also instructs husbands to "love your wives, just as Christ also loved the church and gave Himself for her" (Ephesians 5:25 NKJV). In other words, men are to be self-sacrificing and even to lay down their lives, if necessary, for their wives.

Paul also declared spiritual equality for women in Galatians 3:28: "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is neither male nor female; for you are all one in Christ Jesus." As for worldly markers, women have achieved rights, wealth, education and power in the nations of Christendom (and Israel) as in no other cultures.

9) Claim: The Bible is an ever-changing living document. The Bible "has evolved through countless translations, additions, and revisions. History has never had a definitive version of the book," Brown writes through Teabing (231).

ANSWER: No other book in antiquity has as many manuscripts that are consistently accurate, even after 2,000 years. The New Testament, of which 5,000 early copies exist,( 15 ) also has the shortest gap between time of authorship (55-95 A.D.) and the earliest copies (around 200 A.D.). By contrast, other ancient books have enormous gaps. The histories by Herodotus (488-428 B.C.) and Thucydides (460-400 B.C.), for example, have a 1,300-year gap to the earliest manuscripts (900 A.D.).( 16 ) The central claims of Christianity are identical in all New Testament manuscripts, with variations in minor points consisting of 3 to 4 percent of Scripture.( 17 )

"By the end of the first century, or soon thereafter, most of the books now in the New Testament had been written. By the end of the second century the principal books of the New Testament were already recognized as authoritative," write Biblical scholars Robert A. Spivey and D. Moody Smith.( 18 )

Dr. Darryl DelHousaye, president of the Phoenix (Arizona) Seminary, writes, "In 170 A.D., Tatian published his Diatessaron. Dia 'through' and tessaron 'four' which were Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John woven into one long narrative. The church at that time believed these were the four authentic gospels and all others were unreliable and not part of Scripture."( 19 )

The Old Testament is also remarkably consistent. The finding of the Dead Sea Scrolls in a cave in 1947 showed that very early fragments of the Book of Isaiah are identical to later copies. Brown, by the way, erroneously states that the Scrolls were found "in the 1950s" and he implies that they contained portions of the Gnostic gospels (234). But the Dead Sea Scrolls are solely Jewish writings, with two complete copies of the Book of Isaiah, and all the books of the Old Testament except Esther.

10) CLAIM: Even Walt Disney was a devotee of the Mary Magdalene cult.

ANSWER: Unless he really has gone over the edge, Brown might be revealing a sense of humor here, as he portrays the hero, Robert Langdon, explaining to the naïve Sophie the astonishing breadth of the conspiracy throughout the ages to preserve the secret knowledge of the Gnostic goddess cult:

"'Once you open your eyes to the Holy Grail,' Langdon said, 'you see her everywhere. Paintings. Music. Books. Even in cartoons, theme parks, and popular movies.'

Langdon held up his Mickey Mouse watch and told her that Walt Disney had made it his quiet life's work to pass on the Grail story to future generations" (261).

Mark Pinsky, religion writer for the Orlando Sentinel and author of the 2004 book The Gospel According to Disney, told the Culture & Family Institute: "I'd give it no credence whatever." The mention of Disney as a devotee of the Grail in The Da Vinci Code "is the first that I'd read about it."( 20 )

Pinsky notes in his book that Dan Brown mentions as proof of Disney's involvement that Ariel, in the animated 1989 film The Little Mermaid, has a copy of George de la Tour's The Penitent Magdalene on the wall of her hiding place.( 21 ) But that's it. Pinsky said he sees no secretive Gnostic messages in the Disney canon. Pinsky's main theme is that Disney borrowed heavily from Judeo-Christian morality but largely ignored their source - God - out of a desire to attract as broad an audience as possible. Instead of God's redeeming power, Disney used magic as a plot device and transformative agent. Disney's stories were about virtues such as bravery, humility, hard work, sacrifice, charity, and truth-telling, with good triumphing over evil, but they carefully avoided giving credit to God as the Source of morality, Pinsky said.

Conclusion

The Da Vinci Code is a clever and dangerous book suffused with lies, distortions, Satanic imagery and historical inaccuracies, all designed to cast doubt in readers' minds about the deity of Jesus Christ. The purpose is to give people an excuse to stay away from Bible-centered churches and to embrace gods of their own making to validate their own appetites, particularly sexual libertinism. This New Age vision includes turning Jesus Himself into an all-purpose "good-time god," who approves of anything that anyone wants to do. Instead of a life-saving Savior who died, was buried and resurrected, Brown gives us the sexual union of a temple prostitute with the head of the secret order of The Priory as the highest spiritual expression (311). In this way, Brown is trying to resurrect the old sex-based pagan fertility cults that Judaism and Christianity replaced while civilizing the world. Nowhere does Brown allude to human sacrifices and other excesses that characterized many of these cults that God clearly calls an "abomination" and whose practices are condemned throughout the Old Testament.

By saying that man, not God, created the Bible, and that man can achieve spiritual power through his own efforts, Brown is appealing to the same pride and fallen human nature that Satan did in the Book of Genesis, when he promised Eve that "ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil."

The good news is that the solution for such dangerous error is the same as it has always been, which is to exchange error for truth.

Jesus promised: "And you shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free" (John 8:32).

Recommended Resources:

The Da Vinci Delusion, two-hour DVD, hosted by D. James Kennedy, Coral Ridge Ministries, May 13, 14, 2006 or call: 1-866-543-3792) for a copy.

The Da Vinci Myth Versus the Gospel Truth, by D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcombe, Coral Ridge Ministries, 2006 at http://www.coralridge.org/CRMResCtrsearch.asp?cat=book.

The Da Vinci Code Deception, three-part DVD series with Liberty University Professor of Religion Dr. Edward Hindson, at http://falwellsecure.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=98.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- End Notes

1. Decima Research poll of 1,005 Canadian adults over 18, conducted June 9-12, 2005, commissioned by National Geographic Channel, at http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/June2005/23/c5136.html?view=print.

2. From transcript of The Today Show, June 9, 2003, with host Matt Lauer: at http://www.danbrown.com/media/todayshow.htm.

LAUER: "How much of this is based on reality in terms of things that actually occurred? I know you did a lot of research for the book."

BROWN: "Absolutely all of it. Obviously, there are-Robert Langdon is fictional, but all of the art, architecture, secret rituals, secret societies, all of that is historical fact."

3.Paul Maier, in The Da Vinci Delusion (Fort Lauderdale: Coral Ridge Ministries, DVD, 2006).

4. Jim Garlow and Peter Jones, Cracking Da Vinci's Code (Colorado Springs: Victor, an imprint of Cook Communications, 2004), p. 94, and cited in D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcomb, The Da Vinci Myth Versus the Gospel Truth (Fort Lauderdale: Coral Ridge Ministries, 2006), p. 43.

5. Dr. Darrell L. Bock, in The Da Vinci Delusion, op. cit. Dr. Bock is author of Breaking the Da Vinci Code (Nashville: Nelson Books, 2004).

6. Darrell L. Bock, Breaking the Da Vinci Code, p. 102.

7. Gary Habermas, in The Da Vinci Delusion, op. cit.

8. Dan Brown, The Da Vinci Code (New York: Doubleday, 2003), p. 1.

9. Sandra Miesel, co-author, The Da Vinci Hoax, in The Da Vinci Delusion, op. cit.

10. Flavius Josephus, translated by William Whiston, The Works of Josephus (Peabody, Massachusetts: Hendrickson Publishers, 1987), p. 480.

11. Lee Strobel in The Da Vinci Delusion, op. cit.

12. Bock, p. 27.

13. Amy Welborn, author, De-coding Mary Magdalene: Truth, Legend, and Lies (Huntington, Indiana: Our Sunday Visitor Publishing Division, 2004), commenting in The Da Vinci Delusion, op. cit.

14. David Van Biema, "The Ways of Opus Dei," TIME magazine, cover story, April 24, 2006, at http://www.time.com/time/archive/preview/0,10987,1184078,00.html., 4th ed., 1971, pp.335-36.

15. D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcombe, The Da Vinci Myth Versus the Gospel Truth (Fort Lauderdale: Coral Ridge Ministries, 2006), p. 46.

16. Josh McDowell, Evidence That Demands a Verdict: Historical Evidences for the Christian Faith (San Bernardino, California: Here's Life Publishers, 1979), p. 41.

17. D. James Kennedy and Jerry Newcomb, op. cit., pp 38-47.

18. Robert A. Spivey, D. Moody Smith, Anatomy of the New Testament: A Guide to Its Structure and Meaning (London: Macmillan Company, 1969), p. 51.

19. Dr. Darryl DelHousaye, "The Da Vinci Code and the Scriptures," at http://www.thelife.com/movie/churchscriptures.html.

20. Telephone interview with Robert Knight, May 4, 2006.

21. Mark I. Pinsky, The Gospel According to Disney: Faith, Trust and Pixie Dust (Louisville: Westminster John Knox Press, 2004), p. 139.


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To: edcoil
Dude, it is a FICTION movie.

Yes, The DaVinci Code is fiction, as most people consider the Bible to be.

81 posted on 05/12/2006 6:54:07 PM PDT by BearArms
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To: Ichneumon; All
"I swear, this is rapidly become some Christians' "Mohammed cartoon" moment..."

While it is true that the ideal response from the Church would have been no response, if the media drove The Da Vinci Code fanaticism to the point where 33% of readers believed it was fact, the Church needed to respond. Pope JPII asked that Catholics not read the book based on his understanding that there were/are many who do not have enough knowledge of their own religion to be able to discern what was fact and what was fiction. I suppose if I were in his position, I probably would have made a simple statement that the book was a well-written piece of fiction and presented a fact v. fiction piece like the one above. Obviously, the more negative commentary coming from the Church, the more publicity it receives. I certainly would not have pushed a boycott of the film as Cardinal Arinze has done.

The difference between this and the Muhammad cartoons is the total disinformation and spin campaign by the imams and Islamic scholars in regard to the life of Muhammad, which is well documented by his wars and persecution of others. The similarity that you describe lies in ignorance of history. Islamists want their followers to believe historical lies. The Church wants its followers to believe historical facts.

I did read the book. I may see the movie. It will probably do very well. If "Christians" become convinced it is fact, then they have some work to do on their faith and its history.

82 posted on 05/12/2006 7:01:46 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Caleb1411

There is an error in this piece: Flavius Joseph was a Jew who defected to the Romans, not a pagan Roman.


83 posted on 05/12/2006 7:46:26 PM PDT by rmlew (Sedition and Treason are both crimes, not free speech.)
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To: edcoil

Dude, millions of people think that the book is factual. The only way that moviegoers will know that it is not is for us to tell them.


84 posted on 05/12/2006 7:55:33 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: maine-iac7
"In A.D. 591 Pope St. Gregory the Great preached a sermon in which he identified as one person the New Testament figures of Mary Magdalene, the sinful woman who anointed Jesus' feet and washed them with her tears, ..."

Ah. There's the misunderstanding. That makes it a poetic, certainly well-intended, perhaps dubious opinion of Pope Gregory (and of other homilists of his day.) That doesn't make it a doctrine of the Church.

"The identification of Mary Magdalene as a repentant sinful woman was solidified in the Latin Church for centuries ...... In fact, in the Roman Calendar before the Second Vatican Council, the day was called the feast of "Mary Magdalene, penitent."

This is no surprise. Every saint is a repentant sinner. It is a commonplace that even a great saint would be a great penitent, as were St. Peter, St. Paul and St. Augustine.

I leave you with this beautiful prayer from one of our Western fathers, St. Anselm:

Prayer to St Mary Magdalene
by St. Anselm

St. Mary Magdalene,
you came with springing tears
to the spring of mercy, Christ;
from Him your burning thirst
was abundantly refreshed
through Him your sins were forgiven;
by Him your bitter sorrow was consoled.

My dearest lady,
well you know by your own life
how a sinful soul can be reconciled with its Creator,
what counsel a soul in misery needs,
what medicine will restore the sick to health.
It is enough for us to understand,
dear friend of God,
to whom were many sins forgiven,
because she loved much.

Most blessed lady,
I who am the most evil and sinful of men
do not recall your sins as a reproach,
but call upon the boundless mercy
by which they were blotted out.
This is my reassurance,
so that I do not despair;
this is my longing,
so that I shall not perish.

Therefore,
since you are now with the chosen
because you are beloved
and are beloved
because you are chosen of God,
I, in my misery, pray to you, in bliss;
in my darkness, I ask for light;
in my sins, redemption;
impure, I ask for purity.

Draw me to Him
where I may wash away my sins;
bring me to Him
who can slake my thirst;
pour over me those waters
that will make my dry places fresh.
You will not find it hard to gain all you desire
from so loving and so kind a Lord,
who is alive and reigns
and is your Friend.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

85 posted on 05/12/2006 8:08:28 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (IIRC)
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To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...


86 posted on 05/12/2006 9:14:17 PM PDT by Coleus (I Support Research using the Ethical, Effective and Moral use of stem cells: non-embryonic)
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To: Caleb1411

Well, I didn't read the book, see the movie, read all the comments or even get through the entire article. Based on this extensive expertise, I have only one comment.

Godesses don't have bones.


87 posted on 05/12/2006 9:24:34 PM PDT by keats5
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To: maine-iac7

Good post, you are not alone.


88 posted on 05/12/2006 9:31:50 PM PDT by blasater1960 ( Ishmaelites...Still a wild-ass of a people....)
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To: scripter

ping... for Mondays...


89 posted on 05/12/2006 9:35:43 PM PDT by latina4dubya
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To: Shermy

***Well, whoever is at the right hand of Christ is feminine, very feminine, a feminine woman I'd say.***

So, where is John?


90 posted on 05/13/2006 12:30:43 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (ISLAM is STILL the religion of the criminally insane!)
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To: maine-iac7; Caleb1411; All
Everyone is giving Brown more credid and more condemnation than he deserves.

If he and his fawning acolytes weren't puffing him up as a great novelist, maybe we wouldn't have so much fun relegating him to the Bulwer-Lytton class where he belongs. Caleb's right: Don't waste time reading a pantywaist like Brown when you could be reading a literary heavyweight like Chesterton.

91 posted on 05/13/2006 4:52:48 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Ichneumon
I swear, this is rapidly become some Christians' "Mohammed cartoon" moment.

I repeat, if he and his fawning acolytes weren't puffing him up as a great novelist, maybe we wouldn't have so much fun relegating him to the Bulwer-Lytton class where he belongs. Caleb's right: Don't waste time reading a pantywaist like Brown when you could be reading a literary heavyweight like Chesterton.

92 posted on 05/13/2006 4:55:25 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Revolting cat!
There are certain rules we expect fiction to follow and this book breaks them. While Gore Vidal wrote a fictional book about Abraham Lincoln, he didn't, to my knowledge, make him into a pederast or the author of Shakespeare's works. Sorry, but established historical facts are not to be falsified, fiction or no fiction. The four Gospel;s are historical enough to demand some respect and adherence to the text. Read Jim Crace's Quarantine for a literary and philosphical interpratation of an episode in Jesus' life and see the difference. Why read what everyone else does? Beyond that, Brown's book is the equivalent of a Thomas Kinkade painting in literature. Badly written, offensive pulp novel.

An eloquent description of Brown's slender talent, to be sure.

93 posted on 05/13/2006 5:14:33 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Caleb1411

LAUER is also fiction. lol


94 posted on 05/13/2006 5:16:29 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: Revolting cat!
Read Jim Crace's Quarantine for a literary and philosphical interpratation of an episode in Jesus' life and see the difference. Why read what everyone else does? Beyond that, Brown's book is the equivalent of a Thomas Kinkade painting in literature. Badly written, offensive pulp novel.

Why would anyone settle for thin-gruel religious fiction by Brown when he could be reading The Man Who Was Thursday?

95 posted on 05/13/2006 5:37:56 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Coleus
And all along I thought it was being billed as the Da Vinci Cr@p movie - with the smell that dogs really love!

It is such a BROWN thing (written by Dan Brown) that you have no trouble finding BS (Bull Something) everywhere, as well as MORE OF THE SAME (M.S) and then it gets PILED HIGHER AND DEEPER (Ph.D). It is known as the CR@P with the SMELL you will never forget!!!!

Don't throw your copy of the Da Vinci Cr@p book into the toilet too quickly. Dogs have great uses for that BROWN stuff.

Experience the smell of the Da Vinci Cr@p movie or book today!!!! That BROWN stuff with the smell that just won't quit!!!!

Tell all your friends how much you really enjoy that BROWN STUFF today, and how the smell will not leave and remind you of some of the ripest toilets/OUTHOUSES in the WORLD!!!!

96 posted on 05/13/2006 5:39:38 AM PDT by topher (Let us return to old-fashioned morality - morality that has stood the test of time...)
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To: NYer
Dude, it is a PROPAGANDA film

Then it's a lead-pipe cinch to be an Oscar best-picture nominee; all five of this year's crop of agitprop were.

97 posted on 05/13/2006 5:41:31 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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To: Caleb1411

Be interesting to see the reactions of the "it's just a book" crowd to a book whose plot relied on a revised history of Nazism. It would have to be ok to have the Nazis and Hitler have been kind hearted saints victimized by cruel evil British blue bloods. It's just a book. Why get all bent out of shape?


98 posted on 05/13/2006 5:49:06 AM PDT by DManA
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To: Dog Gone
I'm now going to see the movie twice and will believe it's a documentary.

Well, if Harry Potter can be real, so can the Da Vinci code.

99 posted on 05/13/2006 5:53:10 AM PDT by humblegunner (If you're gonna die, die with your boots on.)
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To: Caleb1411; BibChr
My favorite author -- G. K. Chesterton -- wrote 100+ books, 4,000+ essays, probably 14,000,000 or so words, and I've only read about 20,000 of them.

You may be off by a million, Caleb, but who's counting?
"His written output was prolific, estimated at 15 million words, spanning 4000 essays, some 100 books, with contributions to 200 more and the publication of his own literary journal, G.K.'s Weekly. Most of his works are still in print. He aimed for simplicity and directness in highly energised prose. Such was his fluency with words that he could write an essay in longhand while at the same time dictating another essay to his secretary."

Try that, Mr. Brown.

Chesterton would have had fun with Mr. Brown:
"As one speaker put it, he also 'delighted in pricking the balloon of pomposity' and was master of the epigram, the aphorism and the artful use of paradox. Some examples: 'Silence is the unbearable repartee'; 'Modern man has not lost his way; he has lost his ideas; modern man has become all windows and no house'; 'Tradition ... is the democracy of the dead'; 'Gibbon is now a classic, that is, he is quoted instead of being read'; 'No man must be superior to the things that are common to men; not only are we all in the same boat, but we are all seasick'; 'An adventure is only an inconvenience rightly considered; an inconvenience is only an adventure wrongly considered'; 'A good novel tells us the truth about its hero; but a bad novel tells us the truth about its author'.

I may have read about 50,000 of Chesterton's words; only 14,950,000 to go. I think my next Chestertonian feast will be The Club of Queer Trades or Manalive.

100 posted on 05/13/2006 5:59:49 AM PDT by rhema ("Break the conventions, keep the commandments." -- G. K. Chesterton)
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