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Duke based initial gang-rape reactions on campus officer who eavesdropped on call
Durham Herald Sun ^ | 5/10/2006 | Ray Gronberg

Posted on 05/09/2006 10:05:31 PM PDT by OakOak

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To: mystery-ak; maggief; Howlin; All
Charged Duke lacrosse players have May 18 court date

Two Duke University men's lacrosse players charged with raping an exotic dancer at an off-campus party will appear in court May 18, according to a court schedule.

The hearing is scheduled to start at 2:30 p.m., according to a schedule of Durham County cases.

A grand jury last month indicted sophomores Reade Seligmann, of Essex Fells, N.J., and Collin Finnerty, of Garden City, N.Y., on charges of rape, kidnapping and sexual assault. They were released on $400,000 bond and a judge set the next hearing for the week of May 15.

The charges stem from allegations that a woman was sexually assaulted at an off-campus team party on March 13 where she had been hired to dance.

61 posted on 05/10/2006 5:28:02 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: OakOak
Duke based initial gang-rape reactions on campus officer who eavesdropped on call
62 posted on 05/10/2006 5:29:49 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat; All

Thanks.

THEORY.

#7 On the Search Warrant on 610 N. Buchanan says seize:
Property belonging to



to include but not limited to a Purse, Wallet, Make-up and Make-up bag, Cellular camera telephone, and a shoe.

Under what WAS seized section:
1. Make up bag with ID and 9. Verizon Cell Phone

That makes it look like the Purse, Wallet, and Shoe were
never found.
News Organizations described the smiling picture of the AV
holding a purse.

If she's leaving with the Purse/Wallet.... that lends
credence to the theory Kim Roberts may have planned on
taking Crystal's share and her money from the previous
engagement. This would account for the posts I've seen
saying they're docs out there saying they were looking for
a large amount of $$$$ first.
When the Police Question her on why she has so much $$$$,
she realizes she can't mention that Gig (she doesn't want
them to go there asking Questions)... so she modifies the
number to the $400.00 (her share of this job)

I may have seen someone else with this theory? I couldn't
find it or the answers/responses though


63 posted on 05/10/2006 5:35:49 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: OakOak
Police Report: Accuser Said 20 Raped Her

City manager defends Durham PD

By Darla Miles

(05/09/06 -- DURHAM) - Duke police officials released a report Tuesday night indicating that the accuser in the lacrosse rape investigation changed her story.

A Duke committee released a report Monday saying that Durham police sent mixed messages in the early hours of the lacrosse investigation. It said that police initially told administrators that the accuser was not credible and initially said 20 men had raped her. She later said three had raped her.

Durham City Manager Patrick Baker told Eyewitness News earlier Tuesday that he had never heard that she claimed 20 men had raped her.

But Duke police released a copy late Tuesday of its report from the morning after the March 14 party.

"The female was picked up at the Kroger on Hillsborough Rd., and she was claiming that she was raped by approximately 20 white males at 610 N. Buchanan Street," the report says.

"The victim changed her story several times, and eventually Durham Police stated that charged would not exceed misdemeanor simple assault against the occupants of 610 N. Buchanan," the report later states.

The report says Duke officials did not take the case seriously because Durham police officers said it would blow over.

Baker is standing behind the city's police officers, saying the Duke officer who wrote the report got secondhand information.

"He did not have a conversation with our officer," Baker said in a telephone interview Tuesday night. "He did not have a conversation with the victim. He prepared his report based on conversations he overheard and the context of that conversation."

Baker said the Duke officer overheard a conversation between a Durham police officer and the watch commander.

Earlier in the day, Baker told Eyewitness News that there was confusion in the early hours of the investigation, but Durham police were on the the case later in the morning.

"We had launched a full-scale sexual assault investigation by 4 or 5 that morning," he said. "It just doesn't make sense that a week later anybody thinks that the Durham Police Department isn't taking the case seriously or that it would blow over."

Baker says the Duke committee contacted no one in the Durham Police Department to verify the information.

64 posted on 05/10/2006 5:46:50 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: OakOak
The escort agency surely keeps a log w/their employees' "appointments"....I hope the defense gets a court order for that. And how about the agency's phone records...in particular to one Crystal Mangum for her 'appointments' that night?
65 posted on 05/10/2006 5:48:51 AM PDT by Carolinamom
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The escort agency surely keeps a log w/their employees' "appointments"....I hope the defense gets a court order for that. And how about the agency's phone records...in particular to one Crystal Mangum for her 'appointments' that night?

I doubt that an "escort" agency would keep a log that they would be willing to the turn over to the police. Maybe phone records would indicate something, maybe not- keep in mind that many of these "escorts" take work off of the books, you would need to see her phone records that night to get a real idea of what happened, IMO.

66 posted on 05/10/2006 6:15:09 AM PDT by LWalk18
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The DUKE COMMUNITY SAFETY REPORT report appears to have been altered to include the question mark. Why would it be changed? It causes formatting problems, for one.


http://www.duke.edu/web/police/info/weekly/031906.htm

Mar. 14, 2006

2006-01259

3:08 a.m.

610 N. Buchanan

Assist Outside Agency:? Durham PD investigating a sexual assault by Duke students

Pending


CACHED:

http://72.14.207.104/search?q=cache:oJbRv5ilBWUJ:www.duke.edu/web/police/info/weekly/031906.htm+%22duke+university+police+department%22+%22outside+agency%22+&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=2&client=firefox-a

Mar. 14, 2006

2006-01259

3:08 a.m.

610 N. Buchanan

Assist Outside Agency: Durham PD investigating a sexual assault by Duke students

Pending
67 posted on 05/10/2006 6:27:55 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: OakOak

"Chief Executive Officer Jim Mangum"

Related to CGM?

Paging XOXO!


68 posted on 05/10/2006 6:46:08 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Lurker; Howlin
Yeah, pretty darn stupid........

..Thank goodness the stupid things I did...(& I suspect you and a lot of other people on this forum)....during our college years, didn't get us on the front page of the nation's newspapers and the threat of prison!!

Stupid is stupid....but life's lessons should be a learning tool....not a prison sentence.

Our society is turned upside down and inside out!!

69 posted on 05/10/2006 6:53:21 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: maggief
That's not a "real" question mark. It's some kind of character that the web browser cannot interpret.

"?" != "�"
70 posted on 05/10/2006 6:53:50 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Thanks for your reply. Was the report amended for some reason? Why would the cached version not include the character? It's probably not an issue, just curious.

TIA


71 posted on 05/10/2006 7:09:16 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief

The cached version has an actual space there. Maybe the unreadable character got substituted with a true space during the caching process?


72 posted on 05/10/2006 7:20:35 AM PDT by Locomotive Breath (In the shuffling madness)
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To: Locomotive Breath

Thanks. :)


73 posted on 05/10/2006 7:31:45 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: OakOak

Is the following statement accurate?

Police found Ms. Mangum's makeup kit, cell phone and ID at the party house. Her PURSE, WALLET, and money have not been recovered.

I'm trying to find out what Kim may have absconded with..



The two cell phones recovered at 610 N. Buchanon were Verizons, CM had a Sanyo camera phone.


74 posted on 05/10/2006 8:05:07 AM PDT by Waterfall
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"Wendy Murphy (discussing the report that mentions the accuser kept changing her story and initially said she was Raped by 20 men): She's (accuser) even more credible now."


Unbelievable!


75 posted on 05/10/2006 8:29:09 AM PDT by toldyou
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"Baker is a City Manager. What the heck is that and why isn't the Chief of Police the one answering the media questions?"

Don't you remember, his mother is sick, and he hasn't been handling the case.....but he "stops in at work." Something isn't right here. It sounds to me that he could be involved with the accuser, and he's distancing himself. What else can it be?


76 posted on 05/10/2006 8:48:05 AM PDT by toldyou
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"Wendy Murphy (discussing the report that mentions the accuser kept changing her story and initially said she was Raped by 20 men): She's (accuser) even more credible now."
_____________________________________________________

Ok, now the question of the day for Ms. Murphy is now that the DPD or at least the Durham city government is claiming this was misheard by the DU policeman, if true will Ms. Murphy today admit that LOGICALLY she must say that this development then MUST make the woman LESS CREDIBLE TODAY?


77 posted on 05/10/2006 8:56:17 AM PDT by JLS
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To: GAgal

Very interesting!


78 posted on 05/10/2006 9:00:32 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: Guenevere

You're right....I did stupid things, and my daughters, also did, in high school and college.

Did you read about the 9 year old (third grader)last week? While a cafeteria lady was bending over to empty the garbage, he tried to squeeze through her and a table, and he fell towards her. She called the police two days later and said he "groped," her. They never called the parents. Instead, the police came to the school and took him away in handcuffs!


79 posted on 05/10/2006 9:15:57 AM PDT by toldyou
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To: TexKat

Why on EARTH did they not check this out BEFORE they published this report?


80 posted on 05/10/2006 9:36:07 AM PDT by Howlin
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