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The Da Vinci Protocols: Jews should worry about Dan Brown’s success
National Review Online ^ | 5/5/06 | David Klinghoffer

Posted on 05/08/2006 5:08:09 PM PDT by wagglebee

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To: Meadow Muffin
IT'S A NOVEL.........IT'S A NOVEL...

and they're doing it a BIG favor - such a plethora of free publicity.

On the one hand, they're screaming that it's anti-religious and then quote a poll that says: "poll found that 53 percent of the book’s readers said The Da Vinci Code aided their “personal spiritual growth and understanding.”

So which way is it?

I suspect it's the old 'ox gored' thing. Added to the very real, documented facts of the cover-ups, purges, book burnings, re-writings, additions, subtractions, and 100's of thousands slaughtered in the name of 'religion' - and the more recent discoveries unearthed added to the accessibility of research and information to any and all = and there are a lot of long kept secrets and deceptions coming to light. (Some crawling out from under rocks.)

It is making some folk very nervous and they are attacking. What they don't, however, seem to yet fathom is that the old tactics that worked so well for millennia, no longer do.

It's the old putting new wine in old goat skins thingy = the skins are spitting open - the wine is spilling out all over the place.

There's another analogy to all the screaming: "Methinks they doth protest to much." - which means people will, should, look at the finger pointer to see what they don't want looked at...

21 posted on 05/08/2006 5:32:33 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: wagglebee

Probably. I hadn't thought of it that way...


22 posted on 05/08/2006 5:32:49 PM PDT by livius
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To: Cicero
I doubt this very much.

I tend to think that when indulging in conspiracy stories, even if known to be false, one must actually believe a little of it. Otherwise, there would be no compulsion to continue with it. You write about what you are interested in.

23 posted on 05/08/2006 5:33:42 PM PDT by nosofar
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To: DustyMoment

Yep. Crapola is accurate. It's a G-d D-mned movie. A fiction. A tale. An entertainment. Not the Gospel. Jesus wept. Small minds can't keep the difference straight.


24 posted on 05/08/2006 5:34:15 PM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
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To: Alter Kaker
This Klinghoffer guy isn't a Jew, he's an evangelical Christian who davens. There's nothing wrong with that, but he should be honest with his readership

Especially when calling someone else out as a liar - LOL

That rather deep sixes his stance and claims

25 posted on 05/08/2006 5:35:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: Ben Mugged
Its a story. A fantasy. Pure fiction. I saw the same intellectual energy wasted on Harry Potter.

The problem is, it is not really being treated as such, and as you will see below, Mr. Brown is trying to have it both ways. This excerpt from James P. Holding:

One the first things a reader of The DaVinci Code will see, in prefatory material and under a heading in bolded, capital letters, reading “FACT”, is this statement:

All descriptions of artwork, architecture, documents, and secret rituals in this novel are accurate.

Mr. Brown tries to say "it's only fiction" while claiming that endless falsities and outright lies are "FACT", so it is hyper-simplistic to say it's just a work of fiction. He's trying to write something akin to a historical novel which will lead the uninformed to think, yes the main characters are fiction but, hey, this guy really knows what he's talking about! Maybe he's onto something! Here's some more from Holding, which says it better than I could:

Don't tell me that it's absurd to waste so much time "attacking" a fictional work. First of all, Brown claims that his book is ROOTED IN FACT, so he has claimed to mix fiction with non-fiction. Beyond that, great works of fiction have been known to cause massive social upheaval; if you doubt that, I have three words for you: Uncle Tom's Cabin.

I'm not the one who has problems seeing this is fiction -- other people do. That's who we're trying to inform. Where's your open mind? Second, Brown himself is quite plain about his intentions to challenge beliefs and compel changes of mind; as Olson and Miesel note in The Da Vinci Hoax [18] he plainly acknowledged positively an interviewer's question, on a June 9, 2003 interview on Today, on whether he wanted to "challenge certain long-held beliefs or truths about religion." Just fiction, my foot: Brown is out to start socio-religious upheaval. Tell that excuse to someone else.

For more details, here's the link: http://www.tektonics.org/davincicrude.htm

26 posted on 05/08/2006 5:35:24 PM PDT by Zhangliqun (Hating Bush does not count as a strategy for defeating Islamic terrorism.)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
The Democrats would never go for this, they already have Hillary.

Chuckle

27 posted on 05/08/2006 5:36:34 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: wagglebee
I'm sure those involved in this movie are giddy over all the free publicity.
28 posted on 05/08/2006 5:39:10 PM PDT by BallyBill (Serial Hit-N-Run poster)
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To: maine-iac7
Yep.
Same thing the ding dongs of the left did WRT 'The Passion" and the idiots who protested 'Last Temptation' and 'Handmaidens tale' did: major amounts of free publicity for something really stupid that would slink away otherwise.
29 posted on 05/08/2006 5:39:14 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: wagglebee

The worst novels for Jews have been written by Jews. The neurotic self-haters of Philip Roth, the perverted Satan-worshippers of Isaac Bashevis Singer...


30 posted on 05/08/2006 5:40:14 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 55-59)
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To: familyop

Actually, Opus Dei and Francisco Franco did not "support" each other. The Opus Dei newspaper in Madrid was the only paper Franco ever shut down. Opus Dei was very forward looking, very engaged in planning for the future of Spain (which is why they still run a big business school and university in Northern Spain), and Franco found them threatening.

Pinochet was probably a good thing to happen to Chile, particularly after its brush with Communism under Allende. Why do you think Chile is doing relatively well now? Opus Dei was responsible for much of the education that produced a stable, modern political class.

And the practice of wearing a chain or belt, or using a discipline, is quite ancient in Christianity. It was simply to remind yourself of your sinfulness, and to train yourself not to seek comfort but to unite your sufferings with those of Christ and learn patience and humility.

Hardly something I would consider sinister.

BTW, perhaps you shouldn't get your info about Opus Dei from former Opus Dei members. There's usually a good reason that they're "former," most often that they simply weren't up to the spiritual and intellectual demands of el Opus.


31 posted on 05/08/2006 5:43:02 PM PDT by livius
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To: RedStateRocker

Oops, not that I thought that 'Passion' was stupid. But the lefties sure gave it a LOT of free publicity.


32 posted on 05/08/2006 5:44:16 PM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, ATF and DEA.)
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To: lexington minuteman 1775
If that fails, I would try a multi billion dollar defamation of character suit after the movie comes out

Would they really want their "character" to be in the spotlight?

One might ask them why they did NOTHING for decades about the pedophiles running rampant in the church = they did nothing until it was forced on them and even then, they have done no more than they are forced too = certainly, they still haven't shown an iota of the alarm and ire that they are over this novel.

Gotta make you wonder (altho I don't.) The history is there for people to research nd read. But the church still uses it's age old control of the masses admonition - DON'T READ, DON'T WATCH, LITTLE CHILDREN.

33 posted on 05/08/2006 5:44:23 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: PatrickHenry
...the Protocols tells of a secret society of Jewish elders that work to keep gentiles ignorant of a plot to rule the world through “Darwinism, Marxism, and Nietzscheism.”

Evidently, evolution is now a Zionist plot... It does go far to explain the vehemence of our opposition.

34 posted on 05/08/2006 5:44:27 PM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: familyop
most who criticize Opus Dei are Catholics.

Prior to this book, very few non-Catholics had ever even HEARD of Opus Dei.

35 posted on 05/08/2006 5:46:52 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: RKV

Interestingly, Discovery Channel had a program on last week that completely debunked this Novel. The program did so in no uncertain terms. You are correct... nothing but fictional entertainment, and a cash cow for those involved in its production!

LLS


36 posted on 05/08/2006 5:47:00 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: familyop
but but but - there "is" no Opus Dei! ;o)

Don't confuse folks with the facts - it will give them a headache

37 posted on 05/08/2006 5:48:22 PM PDT by maine-iac7 ("...but you can't fool all of the people all of the time." LINCOLN)
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To: wagglebee

It's interesting that your post is almost identical to another one.

Why Jews Should Worry About ‘The Da Vinci Code’
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1627100/posts


38 posted on 05/08/2006 5:49:15 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: wagglebee
"Prior to this book, very few non-Catholics had ever even HEARD of Opus Dei."

That's true and makes it all the more interesting.
39 posted on 05/08/2006 5:51:14 PM PDT by familyop ("Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." --President Bush)
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To: familyop

Obviously, National Review changed the title, so the search missed it.


40 posted on 05/08/2006 5:51:15 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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