Student Slams UW Handling of Rape Charge; D.A. Investigating

Madison.com ^ | May 6, 2006 | Steven Elbow

[Diana in Wisconsin]

Un-freaking believable!

[skaterboy]

Get drunk, flirt and take a year to report it then whine the cops arent jumping thru hoops to sastify you...nice girl..guys sound really classy too

[MCCRon58]

Perfectly "freaking'" believable. In the world of liberal academia, the only victims are those of minority status who can make a creditable case for beings victimized by a white (preferably rich) man.

Otherwise it just don't count.

[al_again]

I think there are more questions that need to be answered: 1) Does the ex-boyfriend corroborate her story? 2) Did others hear the players confess? The confession in the restaurant and the party are key. Otherwise, it is just based on the word of someone who was highly intoxicated.

I think the key is to educate young women about keeping themselves out of these types of situations. Unfortunately, there is no realistic way you can convict someone for rape when they do it to someone who is highly intoxicated. Women need to protect themselves in these situations - the law just can't do it.

[Larry Lucido]

Sara complained that in the university's system for dealing with sexual assault, the cards are stacked against the victim.

Yeah, that whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing sucks.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

I think the key is to educate young women about keeping themselves out of these types of situations. Unfortunately, there is no realistic way you can convict someone for rape when they do it to someone who is highly intoxicated. Women need to protect themselves in these situations - the law just can't do it.

I agree completely. 90% of reported rape claims are false. The percentage that go unreported is of course indeterminable.

[al_again]

I agree completely. 90% of reported rape claims are false.

I doubt your stats are correct but there are certainly a percentage that are 'next day remorse' type reports. The problem is that htere is no way to get around reasonable doubt when it is just the word of someone who was extremely drunk.

[ConservativeMind]

I would have no problem with all women having the ability to proclaim rape with semen evidence inside of them.

Any man who can't keep his pecker in his pants until marriage should realize rape can be legitimately used against them. However, semen in a woman who is your wife shouldn't be considered a crime.

Get married or screw an animal. Oh, wait, even screwing an animal is against the law.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

Speaking as someone who has taken rape reports, I don't doubt my stats.

[Mordacious]

90% of reported rape claims are false.

I want to thank you for investigating every single rape complaint in our nation. You are a great American.

[ConservativeMind]

Semen evidence or VD can be excellent ways to collaborate the crime.

It can't matter if someone is intoxicated or not. How would you like it if your daughter were slipped a date rape drug at any age? She may have only had a Pepsi and now she can't "realistically" claim a rape because she was intoxicated?

All women should be able to claim a rape with semen evidence.

That will keep men's penises in their pants until marriage.

[al_again]

All women should be able to claim a rape with semen evidence.

Semen only proves sex. There have been several high-profile rape cases in the Orlando area that were later proved to be false. It's unfortunate, but there are a number of rape cases that are flat out false - either a nutcase or someone who really regretted what they consented to while they were drunk. How do you differentiate these scenarios beyond a reasonable doubt.

I don't like the situation at all and I do worry about this happening to one of my daughters. The best thing I can do is show them these stories so they know what can happen when young women drink too much.

[NativeNewYorker]

Sara took more than a year to report the case

Honey, you should be prosecuted for harrassment.

[TheErnFormerlyKnownAsBig]

You're welcome and I know.

[Mad_Tom_Rackham]

Moral of story: Don't get falling down drunk and then go to an apartment with to men, neither of which is your husband.

And then, don't complain about it a fear after the fact.

The college Admin ought to tell her to fuggedaboutit.

BTW, wasn't some guy just released from prison after his accuser of ten years earlier admitted that she had lied because she had been bored and wanted some attention?

[spunkets]

" How would you like it if your daughter were slipped a date rape drug at any age?"

Daughter dearest was in control of the tap. She was also in control of taking off her clothes and pointing her tail in the air.

[Lurker]

'If you can't prove it in court, you can't prove it here,' then what's the point?"

This dizzy bi*** doesn't belong in college. She belongs behind a counter asking folks if they 'want fries with that.'

L

[Mordacious]

You're welcome and I know.

Of course you do. May our good Lord continue to bless you in your noble quest to spread the word about those dirty, lying whores who ever prey on the flower of innocent manhood.

[spunkets]

"BTW, wasn't some guy just released from prison after his accuser of ten years earlier admitted that she had lied because she had been bored and wanted some attention?"

There's been more than a few of those. A WI businessman was convicted of raping a 19 y/o in IL. The 10 y/o picked him out of a lineup. At the time the rape occured he was having dinner with clients somewhere else. That alone should have told the cops the woman was nuts. States atty Jim Ryan (RINO) charged him anyway and got him convicted on the woman's testimony alone. He lost his wife and kids. 6 years later the woman recanted and IL let him out protesting all the way.

[stands2reason]

Three drunk people are fooling around, the girl says "stop" and they stop.

And that's still a rape?