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To: hedgetrimmer

A warrant to ID you? Are you serious? Lets see now, you need an ID to gain a warrant....and you want a warrant to gain an ID? How can you gain a warrant if you do not first establish ID of the person to be searched?


If you cannot see that for what it is then I cannot help you.

I absolutely beleive in innocent until proven guilty. I believe ID helps to prove both and thus approve of it. In this thread I offered the DUKE example. His ATM and the camera's at the ATM prove that he was not at the place of the attack when the accuser said he was there. ID proves innocence and it sure appears you seek to delete that tool.

"so that they can keep track of you" there you go again....use/abuse rather than ID itself.

By this notion you are saying that your SS# is unconstitutional. All Tax ID #'s are unconstitutional for evey business.

Your last paragraph is interesting. That which I advocate removes the very thing you complain about even in the private sector example you cite. Yet you oppose my position.


388 posted on 05/09/2006 9:09:10 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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To: BlueStateDepression

An ID is a paper. A warrantless search of papers offends the Bill of Rights.


394 posted on 05/09/2006 9:13:11 AM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Warrants are SUPPOSED to be difficult to obtain.

The cops have been doing their jobs just fine arresting criminals since before the days of Jesse James without any ID.

They didn't even have any ID at all back then.


396 posted on 05/09/2006 9:14:58 AM PDT by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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To: BlueStateDepression

Yes...because Social Security is unconstitutional, and taxing business is unconscionable.


405 posted on 05/09/2006 9:24:21 AM PDT by Crispus Attucks Patriot (The first to give his life for your liberty was a Black man!)
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