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To: BlueStateDepression

THE SUPREME COURT AND OUR CONSTITUTION

The Constitution of the United States is a contract between the citizens of this country and their government. Like any contract, the terms within it are meant to be concrete and inflexible, unless the parties bound by its terms mutually agree to modify it at a later date. Nobody in their right mind would ever enter into a contract with another party if the terms of that agreement could be changed after the fact by a judge. The whole point of creating a contract is to show that there is a meeting of the minds between the parties who agree to abide by its terms, and whenever there is a dispute between those parties over some aspect of the contract once it's been entered into, a judge is charged with figuring out what the parties actually agreed to in the first place.

Initially the judge does this by reading the contract and considering the literal meaning of the words within it. If he should come across a passage that uses an ambiguous term like "excessive", he then must determine what the parties involved understood the term to mean when the contract was written. He can accomplish this task in several different ways, but what he should never do is simply make up a definition out of whole cloth. This, however, is exactly what activist judges do on a regular basis.

You see, ORIGINALIST judges attempt to figure out what the original intent of the people who created our most important contract was, so that the parties currently bound by it (aka the citizenry and the government) are dealt with fairly and reasonably. Activist judges, on the other hand, seek to change the terms of the original agreement and force upon everyone involved their own personal opinions of what that contract SHOULD say. This practice is grossly unfair, because it forces one of the parties to the contract (whichever one is ruled against at any given time) to accept terms that they did not agree to, and that is precisely why activists should never be allowed to preside over any court which deals with Constitutional issues.


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280 posted on 05/05/2006 1:37:43 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer ("I'm a millionaire thanks to the WTO and "free trade" system--Hu Jintao top 10 worst dictators)
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To: hedgetrimmer

Well said as usual and something I'd like to add is that from some of the legal reform meetings I've attended over the last couple years it's becoming increasingly apparent that a public officials' oath of office is actually a 'naked offer of contract' to the people and the reason they tend to ignore much of our protests on issues is that we have never individually or collectively ACCEPTED the contract that's been offered.

There are some other issues involved also but from what I've learned once we give them administrative notice that their oath has been accepted we now have a binding contract for them to protect our rights.

The way I see it the fedgov, stategov, etc. all have 'contracts'with the people and likewise each public official that takes an oath of office while invoking "so help me God" has created the offer of contract under the common law....and it's up to us to hold their feet to the fire.


285 posted on 05/05/2006 4:10:19 PM PDT by american spirit
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To: hedgetrimmer
You see, ORIGINALIST judges attempt to figure out what the original intent of the people who created our most important contract was, so that the parties currently bound by it (aka the citizenry and the government) are dealt with fairly and reasonably.

OK I would like to offer me how it is possible to figure out the original intent of the founders when it comes to accurately identifying 300 million people. How is it possible to establish their intent, as to ID, when it comes to people boarding an airplane when in 2001 we saw 19 men hijack them and fly them into buildings? Please explain to me how the intent of long dead people can be applied to something they had no concept of.

The founders formed our government as they did with things of this nature in mind and built in the proper measures of checks and balances to deal with the unforseen.

Common sense shows that this is an issue for today's people to deal with using the guidelines and tools set out by the founders/ I agree the constitution is to be abided by. An ID itself is in no way unconstitutional. Abuses of it could very well be, but to say the ID itself is abuse of a right is just plain going to far and cannot be demonstrated as such. I would love to see someone actually show how an ID itself is unconstitutional....that is just hilarious imho.
347 posted on 05/09/2006 6:55:51 AM PDT by BlueStateDepression
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