[BlueStateDepression]

Just like the income tax and federal gun laws are meant to celebrate our individuality.

Care to explain a bit more? I am not understanding what you mean by that comment.

And there is no right granted to the federal government by the Constitution to enact a national ID.

The constitution stipulates that elected officials shall form the laws of this nation in our congress. Are you saying the SS# is a ciolation of the contitution? Is a driver license a violation of a state or our national constitution? Furthermore is your bank account ro your FR ID somehow a violation of your rights? C'mon now, surely you can do better than that eh?

And how do we know that a national ID wouldn't be used to weed out those who criticize government policy?

How exactly would this "weeding out" take place and who the hell thinks that people will stand for it? I suppose the possability that you pose in the abstract is considered by you to be a fact that has already happened. WHAT IF simply isn't enough, do you have anything else?

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

"The constitution stipulates that elected officials shall form the laws of this nation in our congress. Are you saying the SS# is a violation of the contitution?


Yes, it is. The Constitution gives the federal government just NINETEEN enumerated powers. That's all they are allowed to do, period. You're actually using trhe same arguments activist courts have used to expand governmental power.

BTW, income tax is illegal and unconstitutional, too. The Sixteenth Amendment was never ratified by the senate.

[melancton]

Care to explain a bit more? I am not understanding what you mean by that comment.

You said that a national ID is "the government's way of recognizing our individuality." Couldn't the same be said of anything the government does that singles out individuals?

The constitution stipulates that elected officials shall form the laws of this nation in our congress. Are you saying the SS# is a ciolation of the contitution? Is a driver license a violation of a state or our national constitution? Furthermore is your bank account ro your FR ID somehow a violation of your rights? C'mon now, surely you can do better than that eh?

The SS# is a violation of the Constitution. Can you show me where in the Constitution the federal government is authorized to assign such numbers to the citizenry? Can you show me where in the Constitution the federal government is authorized to set up a socialist system of wealth redistribution like Social Security in the first place?

How exactly would this "weeding out" take place and who the hell thinks that people will stand for it? I suppose the possability that you pose in the abstract is considered by you to be a fact that has already happened. WHAT IF simply isn't enough, do you have anything else?

How should I know how it would take place? The point is that I would rather not take the "wait and see" approach.

As for the people not standing for it? Your support for a national ID is proof that some people are more than willing to stand for it.