[Alex Murphy]

Oh, this should be a good thread....

[showme_the_Glory]

Within minutes there will be another site describing the process to obtain FAKE natnl IDs.

[churchillbuff]

You don't have to buy into the "end times" prophecy racket in order to be worried about the federal government ID'ing you. I know, we already have Soc Security cards - but that's just the point: Why does "Uncle" Sam have to be any more intrusive and controlling than that?

By the way, the federal government could have stopped 9-11 with the information it had in hand; no National ID was needed. A couple of the 9-11 family members, on PBS last night, pointed out that line FBI agents had identified the hijackers as suspicious - but their concerns were ignored by higher-up bureaucrats.

[noobiangod]

There isn't much you can do without your social security number these days.

[showme_the_Glory]

We don't enforce the undocumented laws now, how would a new ID change that?

[Tarantulas]

[Crispus Attucks Patriot]

This is also why I'm against the Patriot Act. I don't care how secure this makes us as a nation. I'd rather have my liberty. Sure, Americans might die, but freedom is A.)inherently risky, and B.) not free. The same with this "National ID" crapola. Always beware the government that claims a repressive move is "for your own protection." Well, I have all the protection I need from Gustav Glock.

"Those who would forsake essential liberty for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
-Benjamin Franklin

[Disturbin]

I'll buy the "mark of the beast" theory when they actually start branding folks, or doing implants. Maybe I've been watching too many X-Files reruns .....

[FReepaholic]

Well, if you believe the Bible then it's gonna happen anyway so there ain't nothing we can do about it.

[PeteB570]

No

[Alex Murphy]

Endtime Ministries' Irvin Baxter, a radio host, believes the national ID is a precursor to the forced embedding of radio-frequency chips under the skin.

Have you heard about the Arkansas church's techno-tithing program?

[Hambone02]

I don't know if I totally agree with this or not. I listen to Irvin Baxter regularly, and much of what he says is very thought provoking.
The Bible says that man will not be able to buy, sell, etc. without a mark. After 2008, we will not be able to open a bank account, buy a house or car, etc. without showing our national ID.
I love how the Government slipped this in onto the coattails of a Bill that it knew nobody would vote against.

[sinkspur]

That's the contention of a growing group of believers who are working to turn back the approval of the Real ID Act by Congress last year

These whack jobs are going to get us all killed.

[HEY4QDEMS]

We already have SSN, Drivers Licenses, Birth Certificates.

I had to provide my SSN when I got my drivers license. You already can't board an Airplane without proper ID.

Claiming that you won't be able to buy consumer goods is a little over the top IMO.

[x1stcav]

Yawn.

What's all the fuss about. I've had a national ID since 1967. It's called a passport.

[Yo-Yo]

How long before we are required to carry "domestic passports" in order to fly, ala the 1070s Soviet Union?

[right way right]

Whose the beast?

Bump!

[plain talk]

We already have a national ID card that can serve the purpose - it's a Social Security card. We just need to tighten that up and use it for national ID purposes. We need a mechanized way of verifying whether a person is a citizen or not on a national basis.

[Al Gator]

My personal opinion on this is that W. and a few of his folks want national ID so badly, they will let the borders collapse and let illegal aliens riot in the street.

When the backlash occurs, national ID will be a slam dunk.

Would W. do such a thing???

[shuckmaster]

I was against the national ID until you started trying to scare me with superstitious magic numbers. Have you ever noticed that elevators never stop on the 666th floor?