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To: Dinsdale

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There are four major political systems:

1. Socialism blends NonConformance with Interdependence.
2. Authoritarianism blends Conformance with Interdependence.
3. Conservatism blends Conformance with Independence.
4. Liberalism blends NonConformance with Independence.




Conservatism is a political system that blends Conformance and Independence.

Conservatism is a tendency to resist rapid change and to support traditional norms, where "traditional norms" is meant to be the type of moral order and rules that existed in previous times (e.g. Europe and North America prior to the 1950's, stricter religious periods...).

In a conservative state, citizens are subject to state authority primarily in the area of social behavior aspects of their lives.

Conservatism includes these variations:

1. Economic Conservatism
2. Moral Conservatism
3. Moderate Conservatism
4. Extreme Conservatism




Liberalism is a political system that blends NonConformance and Independence.

Liberalism sees individual liberty as the highest values in social and economical life. It favors the right to dissent from orthodox tenets or established authorities in social or economical matters.

This definition of Liberalism (there are many) blends the social aspects of U.S. Liberalism [NonConformance] with the economic aspects of European Liberalism [Independence].

Liberalism includes these variations:

1. Economic Liberalism
2. Moral Liberalism
3. Moderate Liberalism
4. Extreme Liberalism




Libertarian Capitalism is an extreme form of Moral Liberalism.

It is a political philosophy which advocates individual rights and a limited government.

Libertarian Capitalists believe individuals should be free to do anything they want, so long as they do not infringe upon the equal rights of others.

They further believe that the only legitimate use of force, whether public or private, is to protect those rights.

For libertarians, there are no positive rights (such as to food or shelter or health care), only negative rights (such as to not be assaulted, abused, robbed or censored).





It's right there, plain as can be. Libertarians are Liberals. Puritans (Fundamentalists) would be in the Conservative System.


8 posted on 05/03/2006 2:55:12 PM PDT by ghostmonkey
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To: ghostmonkey

Using those definitions, I am definately a Libertarian Capitalist.


16 posted on 05/03/2006 2:58:41 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I believe that all government is evil, and that trying to improve it is largely a waste of time.)
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To: ghostmonkey

Only if you accept the stupid definitions the sights author pulled out of his !@#$. Which would end discussion.


22 posted on 05/03/2006 3:01:40 PM PDT by Dinsdale
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To: ghostmonkey

You're getting tripped up by the terminology. This chart uses "liberal" in its classical sense, which refers to a philosophy that values individual liberty and limited government. Obviously this term doesn't apply to modern so-called liberals. It does, however, apply to liberians.

The term used on the chart for modern so-called liberals (who vote Democrat and post on DU) is "democratic socialists" -- a much more accurate and descriptive term for them.


80 posted on 05/03/2006 3:40:11 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: ghostmonkey
Libertarianism is an extreme form of Moral Liberalism. It is a political philosophy which advocates individual rights and a limited government; -- exactly as does our Constitution.

Libertarians Capitalists believe individuals should be free to do anything they want, so long as they do not infringe upon the equal rights of others; -- exactly as does our Constitution.

They further believe that the only legitimate use of force, whether public or private, is to protect those rights and our Constitution.

For libertarians, there are positive rights (such as to property of all kinds), and negative rights (such as to not be assaulted, abused, robbed or censored).

It's right there, plain as can be, in our Constitution.

ghostmonkey erroneously claims:

Libertarians are Liberals.

Nope, -- American libertarians are Constitutionalists.

117 posted on 05/03/2006 4:40:29 PM PDT by tpaine
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