Do you believe in a right to consensual incest or not tpaine?
-- The Constitution was used by the USSC to 'strike down' a State infringement of a fundamental property right, -- the right to close your bedroom door and act as you please with another consenting adult.
Do you extend this "right" to incestuous acts as well, tpaine?
Unable to debate the issue as framed, Joe? -- Re-read 'consenting adult'. -- A couple of adult cousins fooling around in their bedroom should be safe from the State of Texas knocking the door down, -- true?
Do you believe in a right to consensual incest or not tpaine?
I don't 'believe' that the State of Texas has the power to write or enforce 'laws' prohibiting adults from consensual incest, joe.
In fact, I'm positive that the 14th Amendment says that about all laws depriving us of life, liberty, or property. Due process must be used in writing reasonable regulations on such 'sinful' matters.
He won't say it in those words, but he already admits that he does. The same logic that he extends would extend to polyamory, polygamy and a host of other perversions.
Hey Tpaine, here is one for you, you say "Consenting adult". What exactly should the age of consent be? Be specific in your definition please. For example, should there be a magic cutoff age (18), or something else? Please give justification on why you set your age at whatever level you do.
Libertarians have no problems with judicial activist decisions like Lawrence, Roe, and other's provided it's their atheistic worldview that is legislated.
Another perfect example would be the fact that Libertarians are wholeheartly in favor of redefining the institution of marriage.
They swoon over the idea of letting a Federal Court, Federalize an area that has ALWAYS been the sole authority of the individual States. They have no problem running roughshod over the rights of a supermajority of people in States like Alabama, Mississippi, North Carolina, Ect... Just to support an extremly radical superminority, who most likely suffers from some sort of mental illness.
Under no circumstances can the Constitution or any of it's amendments be read to allow the redefinition of marriage nationwide. It's solely left up to the individual states.
Yes, that does mean that States like MA can make whatever mockery of marriage that they want, however, it also means that normal folks in normal states can defend marriage and protect it in their law and Constitutions.
Yet Libertarians support the homosexual mafia's attempt to invent a new right and destroy the institution of marriage.
Which goes back to the political systems grid. Libertarians are in the same box as Democrat Liberals on that issue.