[Tailgunner Joe]

Liberals don't want big government as far as the military is concerned, or intelligence. Liberals also don't want "big government" to stop the illegal alien invasion. Liberals are also against "big government" trying to make women's private medical reproductive choices for them.

[onja]

Seems like liberals don't want any military :) But I was talking about the welfare state. The government takes evrything from the rich and gives the poor everything they need.