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Linux vs. Windows Vista vs. Leopard
Technology News ^ | 1 May 2006 | Rob Enderle

Posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:36 AM PDT by ShadowAce

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It's ROb Enderle, so take him for what he's worth.....
1 posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:39 AM PDT by ShadowAce
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To: rdb3; chance33_98; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Bush2000; PenguinWry; GodGunsandGuts; CyberCowboy777; ...

2 posted on 05/02/2006 5:49:52 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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take him for what he's worth.....

Which is approximately zero point zero.

At least he quit putting "beleaguered" in front of Apple every time...

3 posted on 05/02/2006 5:54:39 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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Which is approximately zero point zero.

GMTA. I thought I'd go ahead and put this article up as it mentions all three of the mainstream OSes.

4 posted on 05/02/2006 5:56:50 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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This OS [Leopard] was largely modeled after what Vista was going to be.

LOL!

Yeah, there's Apple, copying Microsoft's ideas, again.

5 posted on 05/02/2006 5:57:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: ShadowAce

Has any one tried seamonkey 1.1 ?


6 posted on 05/02/2006 5:58:50 AM PDT by Perdogg (entia non sunt multiplicanda praeter necessitatem)
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To: ShadowAce
There was little mention of the Mac OS at the conference

Gee, a "Linspire-sponsored" conference to talk about ways to run Windows apps on Linux, I wonder why they didn't mention Macs much.

7 posted on 05/02/2006 6:00:17 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: ShadowAce

IB4GE


8 posted on 05/02/2006 6:01:42 AM PDT by twntaipan (John McCain: Your 15 minutes of fame were up long, long ago.)
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To: ShadowAce
...but if what I'm reading is right, [Leopard] too has run into problems and won't show up until late 2007.

I haven't heard this from any other source.

9 posted on 05/02/2006 6:02:18 AM PDT by Petronski (I love Cyborg!)
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I haven't heard this from any other source.

Yeah--I noticed he didn't source this little nugget of information.

10 posted on 05/02/2006 6:03:51 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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I bought Apple stock a couple of years ago, when it was at 13+. I held it through the split. This February, they reached a high of 85+, and I decided to sell it. My final price was around 82, by the time I sold.

My ROI was more than 1000%, in less than 3 years. They have sunk back to the mid-60's lately, but continue to create wealth for their stockholders. I have been thinking of buying some back, and if it sinks below 60, I will!

I just bought a Mini, to replace an older G3 iMac. I already had monitors laying around, and various USB keyboards are stacked on shelves in the back room. My daughter loves it, since she can now burn her CD's on her computer rather than using mine. They have become appliances for us, as intended!

PC guys think it is all about the computer. Mac guys know its about the users!

11 posted on 05/02/2006 6:08:21 AM PDT by pageonetoo (You'll spot their posts soon enough!)
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There was also a lot of discussion about what Linux should become, with some of the most interesting commentary coming from Geoffrey Moore, author of "Crossing the Chasm," who was right on in stating that Linux is going in the wrong direction with respect to the desktop.

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Moore pointed out that things move slowly and that a good place to look for ideas for future products is among kids and young people -- and what they are currently using. Today kids are using devices like cell phones and iPods, often juggling several gadgets running at once. These devices are not all-in-ones, rather they're specialized to whatever the user wants to do. In short, they're nearly the opposite of what Windows currently is. What does that mean? It means Windows might be a poor model for future products. Future products probably won't be running on anything that looks like today's Windows.

We're still waiting to learn what this guy who was "right on" about what Linux should not be to tell us what it should be.

Maybe we should all be running spreadsheets on iPods?

12 posted on 05/02/2006 6:09:00 AM PDT by B Knotts
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I've been watching Red Hat go from $10.70 to $31.00 in 12 months. What is driving it?
13 posted on 05/02/2006 6:24:02 AM PDT by tubebender (Tagline...I don't need no stinking tagline...)
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To: ShadowAce
I'm using Mepis 6.0 Beta 1 right now and I'm loving it. Tomorrow Beta 2 is due to be released, add me to the Linux ping list if there is such a thing.
14 posted on 05/02/2006 6:24:24 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: ShadowAce

Good article. Good points. Obvious points, but good ones. Each had better overcome their current market problems or else Bill's nightmare that some other company or kid will emerge with a better product might just happen.


"If Microsoft can't find a way to become agile and customer focused again it will clearly be on the long slow path that IBM blazed"


So true. Funny the author says "Agile" as that is the process MS seems to be headed internally.


15 posted on 05/02/2006 6:27:10 AM PDT by CodeToad
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...add me to the Linux ping list if there is such a thing.

There is no Linux list per se, but I do run a Tech ping list, which gets pinged to various Linux/MS/general tech topics. I've added you. If you want off , just let me know.

Welcome Aboard!

16 posted on 05/02/2006 6:28:08 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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"It's ROb Enderle, so take him for what he's worth....."

Well, he started off pretty good, talking about the "kids today" market with multiple specialized pieces of hardware--but the thing he either didn't know, or forgot to mention, is that Linux is ALREADY a major player in providing OS's for those market segments.

But how he gets from there to Apple/Leopard is not clear.

17 posted on 05/02/2006 6:28:23 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel-NRA)
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To: ShadowAce

thank you. :)


18 posted on 05/02/2006 6:30:25 AM PDT by Echo Talon
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To: Izzy Dunne
And then there's FlyakiteOSX which I have been unable to decide is ingenious or pathetic.
19 posted on 05/02/2006 6:37:42 AM PDT by atomic_dog
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To: B Knotts
My 2 cents...

After messing with all three platforms for the past ten years or so, I have come to the following conclusions:

Linux - Very stable, but way too complicated for most (novice) users. People want to be able to plug in hardware and have it work, not plug it in, search the web for drivers, fiddle with the drivers, have the device do less than it does on other platforms, etc. Similar problem with software, you should be able to put in a disk and have it work. Which brings us to...

Apple - Almost as stable as Linux, and very easy for the novice. Everything that Linux isn't, the Apple platform is. Hardware, that which is designed for Apple, is totally plug and play. Ditto software. Apple's problem is in availability of hardware and software and the price thereof. It has gotten better, but there have still been instances with my clients where they complain that *something* isn't available for their Mac.

Windows - The compromise. Generally cheaper hardware and software than Apple. Drivers are not a problem like with Linux. Not as easy to use as Apple, but not as complex as Linux. Most hardware and software is easy to install and use, but vulnerability to viruses and spy-ware is a problem that requires a lot of attention on the part of the user.

My recommendations to my clients on buying a computer:

1. If you are a total novice (and cost is not a major factor) and just want to do specific tasks, i.e. e-mail, music, Internet, etc., Apple is the way to go. More expensive initially, but less likely to cause future headaches.

2. If money is tight, but you don't have time (or talent) to mess with your system, go Windows. Spend some extra money on a good security suite.

3. Linux is a good choice for those who want to tinker. If you have modest means and you have specific needs that Linux can meet - web browsing, e-mail, word processing, etc. - it is a good low cost choice.

All three platforms have their place and none is perfect for everyone. This "mine is better than yours" argument is silly. Different strokes for different folks. Deal with it.

20 posted on 05/02/2006 6:41:09 AM PDT by Crusher138
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