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To: OakOak
Someone involved in investigating this case is not happy with Nifong.


Chalmers, perhaps?


The Durham Police Department issued a new general order on photo lineups in February.

http://www.herald-sun.com/durham/4-730063.html
1,611 posted on 05/07/2006 6:23:03 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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1,612 posted on 05/07/2006 7:27:00 AM PDT by maggief (and the dessert cart rolls on ...)
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To: maggief; SirJohnBarleycorn

Maggief - you may be right on!

SirJohnBarleycorn - Nifong has blocked himself in to some extent. He claims the Gang-rape and beating occured AFTER the women went out to their car and then returned to the House.

The Neighbor, Bissey, has times on that too. In his first statement he's deadly accurate on so many issues and he provides a time there too. Further, Kim Roberts has said they didn't start dancing until around Midnight too.

It's not like Nifong has the option of claiming the Gang-rape/beating happened soon after the dancers arrived, because the accuser reports the attack was after they returned to the house, Roberts verifies that they do return to the house (talked into coming back in) and the neighbor Bissey provides a timestamp for that RETURN. In fact, one of the only undisputed things in everyone's account is that the Dancers go to their car and then decide to return to the house to finish dancing.

The brutality of the event as reported by the AV coupled with the timing of the attack also make the smiling photo as she departs the house more damning to the DA's case.

It almost seems more believable for Nifong to argue that Reade Seligmann participated in the attack after his ATM ride and carry out. That doesn't fit either, but faced with the 2nd strippers indicating they started dancing around midnight and state's contention that the rape happened and then Crystal bascially fled the scene - that's really tough to accept with Seligmann's phone activity, short walk, cab ride, ATM visit, and dining.


1,619 posted on 05/07/2006 9:10:21 AM PDT by OakOak
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To: maggief; Vn_survivor_67-68

The Durham Police Department issued a new general order on photo lineups in February.
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I wonder if the IDs possibly went like this:

1. Picture B, that's probably one, it looks like one without his moustache. I am 90%. [Investigator interjects, we can not arrest nor try someone on a 90% ID.]

2. Picture C, that one, I am 100% sure.

3. Picture E, that is another one, I am 100% sure.

And then they stop. This sequence would undermine the the IDs even more. If they coached her that he 90% ID was not good enough and stopped after she picked a third, it was a terrible photo array.

The press always reports it as if he IDed two but was not completely sure of a third. But the sequence of these IDs would tell us a lot.

Vn_survivor_67-68 I did not follow the Jackson case in any detail, but I remember something in the Jackson/Peterson time from like that. [I followed neither of those cases in detail.]


1,620 posted on 05/07/2006 9:34:33 AM PDT by JLS
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