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Mac vs. PC $2800 17" Laptop Shootout
SystemShootouts.Org ^ | 4/26/2006 | SystemShootouts.Org

Posted on 04/27/2006 6:42:38 PM PDT by Swordmaker

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1 posted on 04/27/2006 6:42:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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To: 1234; 6SJ7; Action-America; af_vet_rr; afnamvet; Alexander Rubin; anonymous_user; ...
MacBook Pro 17" comparison to Dell Inspirion E1705 17" configured to match the Stock Apple... PING!

If you want on or off the Mac Ping List, Freepmail me.

2 posted on 04/27/2006 6:44:00 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Swordmaker
But,But, Mac Doesn't have that many Games ,Waaaaaaaa!
3 posted on 04/27/2006 6:49:42 PM PDT by cmsgop ( I love Scotch. .......Scotchy, Scotch, Scotch)
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To: Swordmaker

Interesting. Of course in the productivity section both will more than likely have MS Office loaded. And I like Office for Mac better myself.


4 posted on 04/27/2006 6:52:58 PM PDT by Mr. Blonde (You know, Happy Time Harry, just being around you kinda makes me want to die.)
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To: cmsgop

I remember when all the good games only ran on a Mac. Believe it or not, but games are one of the main driving forces behind hardware improvements.


5 posted on 04/27/2006 6:57:23 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Spruce

Remember Chop-Lifter,Just Awesome!


6 posted on 04/27/2006 7:01:51 PM PDT by cmsgop ( I love Scotch. .......Scotchy, Scotch, Scotch)
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To: cmsgop

Hahahaha! I stunk at that game!


7 posted on 04/27/2006 7:15:43 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Spruce
I just bought 4 baby Spruce's today, coincidence ?
8 posted on 04/27/2006 7:22:53 PM PDT by cmsgop ( I love Scotch. .......Scotchy, Scotch, Scotch)
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To: cmsgop

A fine choice!

They will repulse the pests that prey upon your less-capable trees. And beer made using their needles will rise your spirit.


9 posted on 04/27/2006 7:32:04 PM PDT by Spruce (Keep your mitts off my wallet)
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To: Swordmaker

I've always wanted a loaded laptop. Butttt, I also want cast aluminum wheels and cool tires for my car. And maybe a new bathroom downstairs. And new tile...


10 posted on 04/27/2006 10:52:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Swordmaker

Very interesting comparison chart. Well done. My only beef is that I think the 5.5 hours of use off a battery charge is kind of a fantasy. In real world use I would expect much less time. My G4 17 inch Powerbook can't even play a movie from beginning to end without needing a battery swap and I doubt that power management or battery life has improved all that much since I bought it.


11 posted on 04/28/2006 3:34:14 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Swordmaker

I wouldn't call the Dell the winner for the LCD resolution, but the loser. The dot pitch is so tiny that running a Dell at native resolution is begging for eye strain. OTOH, running an LCD at non-native resolution hurts my eyes even more, so I'm stuck squinting at the native resolution.


12 posted on 04/28/2006 6:36:57 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: Swordmaker

And,

But Macs are overpriced, under powered boutique computers!


13 posted on 04/28/2006 6:37:48 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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To: jalisco555
y only beef is that I think the 5.5 hours of use off a battery charge is kind of a fantasy. In real world use I would expect much less time. My G4 17 inch Powerbook can't even play a movie from beginning to end

Battery life is like gas mileage -- not absolutely realistic but good for comparison. The normal benchmarks count the fact that for most average use a computer is waiting for the user, so the processor can go into a low-power state (and CoreDuo has excellent low-power management). Running video takes a lot of constant processing power and disk access, so it drains the battery very fast.

Having a lot of RAM on your machine for cache vastly increase your battery life. In fact, there's a Windows program out there that caches DVD playing to improve battery life.

BTW, for this comparison, Apple's standard battery has more watt/hours than Dell's standard, but less than Dell's $79 upgrade battery.

Another plus forgotten for Apple: Its CD/DVD drive is slot-loading.

14 posted on 04/28/2006 7:37:15 AM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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But Macs are overpriced, under powered boutique computers!

And don't forget the classic...

"The light weight of these Mac laptops is required only because of the limp wrists of their gay owners!" ...

Which I just made up on the spur of the moment to beat Hank Reardon to the punchline...

15 posted on 04/28/2006 7:41:01 AM PDT by Swordmaker (Beware of Geeks bearing GIFs.)
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To: Swordmaker

One more criticism. Your chart doesn't take into account the monetary value of the time you spend dealing with Dell Tech Support just to keep your computer running at anything like normal.That would probably add another $1,000 to the overall cost of ownership of a Dell.


16 posted on 04/28/2006 9:01:54 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: antiRepublicrat

All true, of course, but it is annoying to have to swap a battery on a plane just to finish watching a movie. That being said, I'll be looking at one of these beauties in about a year.


17 posted on 04/28/2006 9:03:11 AM PDT by jalisco555 ("Dogs look up to us, cats look down on us and pigs treat us as equals" Winston Churchill)
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To: Swordmaker

This is a bit of a silly comparison, as the price of the Dell has been padded with add-ons and software just to get the prices to match. The Dell, by itself, is cheaper.


18 posted on 04/28/2006 9:11:14 AM PDT by B Knotts
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To: Swordmaker

You can actually get a wide-screen Dell Precision M90 with a free 19" external flat-panel monitor, for less than the Mac Book Pro.

Now, there are other reasons to buy the Mac, obviously. If you want to use Mac OS X, you have no other choice. And, for some people, that makes it worth the price.

But, I think it's dishonest to pretend that Macs are price-competitive with even Dells at this point.


19 posted on 04/28/2006 9:17:16 AM PDT by B Knotts
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I'm not sure about the 17" models, but my 12" iBook gets simply amazing battery life. Four and a half hours, on average, under real-world use conditions.

By comparison, my HP PC notebook gets about two hours if I'm lucky.


20 posted on 04/28/2006 1:56:19 PM PDT by furquhart (Time for a New Crusade - Deus lo Volt!)
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