There are way too many claims being made by both sides of this case without any proof to back them up. I'm still waiting for the court date to separate the BS from the facts.
There has not been one thing that the defense has said that hasn't turned out to be true.
On the other hand, Nifong's witness is in the crapper.
There's not going to be a court date.
"I'm still waiting for the court date to separate the BS from the facts."
If what has been said about the identification is true and no DNA match is ever established, you may be waiting in vain. The case may never go to trial. Probable cause is a very low standard and is all that is needed to get by the Grand Jury. The accuser's statement alone gets that. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt is another thing altogether. They need some proof that a specific individual attacked the accuser. Proving the accuser was attacked by some unspecified Lacrosse player is not sufficient to get this case to trial.
I say this not to be contentious, but because I really believe the case will not go to trial and that is a terrible outcome, because it settles nothing. Since the case has now been tried in the media, supporters of each side will continue to believe as they do and the accused young men will be hounded for the rest of their lives, guilty or not.
On the other hand, a trial like that for O.J or Robert Blake would do little to dissuade those who think those men guilty of murder. I doubt, however, that a North Carolina trial would be as screwed-up as a California trial.
Huh? Actually, I'm surprised by how much proof IS in fact being presented to back up the claims.
The prosecution does have some proof:
- the AV's sworn statement as described in the police probable cause affidavit which is in the public domain
-- a SANE nurse examination of trauma "consistent with" sexual assault, although this has not been publicly released. The DA may or may not have a toxicology report, but perhaps isn't discussing that because of medical information privacy laws.
The defense has put a lot of proof on the table:
-they have the negative DNA test results which they have described in detail
-they've shown many reporters the set of photographs taken at the party, and allowed the reporters to describe them.
-they've produced the taxi driver, who has given his first-hand account to reporters about driving Seligmann.
-they have the ATM receipts and dorm card swipe.
Also, we have the witness Kim's eyewitness report given to reporters and to defense investigators.
We have the neighbor Bissey's eyewitness report given to reporters.
We have the Kroger security guard's eyewitness report given to reporters.
We have the two 911 call tapes that are now in the public domain.
We have the police transmission tape that is now in the public domain.
We now have the Creedmoor police report seen by the AP as to the prior accusation.
There is a LOT of "proof" out there. Obviously, there is much more to come if this case goes to trial, but it is absurd to claim there is no proof out there to back up anything people are saying.