Posted on 04/27/2006 4:27:11 PM PDT by Conservative Coulter Fan
The woman who says she was raped by three members of Duke's lacrosse team also told police 10 years ago she was raped by three men, filing a 1996 complaint claiming she had been assaulted three years earlier when she was 14. Authorities in nearby Creedmoor said Thursday that none of the men named in the decade-old report was ever charged but they didn't have details why. A phone number for the accuser has been disconnected and her family declined to comment to The Associated Press. But relatives told Essence magazine in an online story this week that the woman declined to pursue the case out of fear for her safety. The existence of the report surprised defense attorneys, one of whom has sought information about the accuser's past for use in attacking her credibility. "That's the very first I've heard of that," said Bill Cotter, the attorney for indicted lacrosse player Collin Finnerty, who along with fellow Duke sophomore Reade Seligmann is charged with first-degree rape, kidnapping and sexual assault. He declined additional comment. Attorneys for Seligmann asked the court this week to order the state to turn over the accuser's medical, legal and education records, and hold a pretrial hearing to "determine if the complaining witness is even credible enough to provide reliable testimony." The accuser, a 27-year-old student at North Carolina Central University in Durham, told police she was hired to perform as a stripper at a March 13 party, where she was raped by three men. According to the Creedmoor police report in August 1996, when the woman was 18, she told officers she was raped and beaten by three men "for a continual time" in 1993, when she was 14. She told police she was attacked at an "unspecified location" on a street in Creedmoor, a town 15 miles northeast of Durham. The report lists the names of the three men, but no other details. Creedmoor police Chief Ted Pollard said Thursday he had no recollection of the report, and his staff has been unable to find any additional information about it. Durham police Officer Brian Bishop, who interviewed the accuser in 1996 while working on the Creedmoor force, said Thursday he had a vague recollection of the report but couldn't remember any details. When asked about the accuser's previous report of rape, Durham County District Attorney Mike Nifong declined to comment. Before Seligmann and Finnerty were indicted, attorneys for the players pointed to the accuser's criminal history when answering questions about their clients' legal troubles. The woman pleaded guilty to several misdemeanors in 2002.
My real point was not to correct, but that this is one more bit of information that some of these people are talking about a specific event that happened when she was in high school rather than when she claimed she was raped years earlier?
Of course what may well have happened is:
1. She claims rape to mom and dad when she is late coming home when 13 or 14 or 15. She gains much sympathy.
2. She meets her future husband and to seek sympathy claims that her prior boyfriend raped and beat her. She gets her sympathy, but he demands to take her to the police. She then reports the years old rape so as to not stir up too much dust she can not backup. [The boyfriend is in the lobby waiting on her, the police certainly would not have him around when she was detailing her complaint to the reporting officer.] She never follows through with the details of course and in her mind no harm is done.
3. Now we arrive at the current case where she has cried rape the second or possibly third time.
Okay I'll bite--who is on the higher ground?
Family?
Cops?
City/County/Sate employee?
Minister?
1993: alleged rape > psychiatric care/medication
2002: "acting funny"/under table/stolen taxi > arrested
2005: mental breakdown > hospitalization
*Do medical records show accuser received treatment for 1993 rape injuries?
* Does her Navy service record show psychiatric treatment? Why a general, not honorable, discharge?
* Do medical records show accuser received treatment after her 2002 arrest?
* Why was her driver's license revoked/suspended a number of times? Did the court demand she receive any type of treatment?
Okay, I've moved to higher ground. Now what?
Well, I can't see the one on YOUR face, but I assume it matches the one on MINE. :-)
To me the sum of xoxoxox posts are that this case is being pushed by someone higher up. That would be the person on higher ground.
I have no way to know if this is true or not, but that is how I read the hints. If you knew who lived in what parts of the Durham area one of the posts might have taken you to a neighborhood. It did not mean anything to me.
Cops?
City/County/State employee?
One or more of the above...my guess. I said this yesterday, too.
wow...they were married for 17 months??
What happened to the story of being raped when she was 16 and mom taking her immediately to the police to file a complaint??
Judge?
That's the new report. First it was 4-5 years, then two months and divorcing a year later, and now 17 months. The last two are sort of close. ;)
Here's more on him:
http://www.insideedition.com/ourstories/inside_stories/story.aspx?storyid=152
McNeil was 32-years-old when he married the then-18-year-old, who was still in high school.
FREEPMAIL!!!
Police chief?
I may have hit the motherlode!
I think the family is getting mixed up on the rape stories involving this mutt. Are there 3? At ages 14, 16 and 27??
I posed this question to my bf, yesterday. He has a 14 yr old daughter. He said he'd rip their faces off. I would have bought a rifle and ventilated them. I'm not physically strong enough to dismember them.
13 is still too damn young for sexual activity. I'm glad they changed the law. This stinks so bad, that I don't know what to make of it. Perhaps she was assaulted by a family member. Crystal had to make an excuse to her fiancee to hide the "family secret"? I'll tell you something: things like this go on in families you'd never suspect. No one opens their mouths except to make a cryptic remark to a newcomer into the family.
Children who are molested at a young age have many problems. Anger management, drug abuse, inappropriate sexual conduct, and horrific life choices. They have no boundaries.
I have been debating whether to share this story, but it is appropriate if Crystal was molested. Years ago, a 13 yr old girl accused a man of molesting her. Her mother(deceased, thanks to a drug run that took her life and her oldest daughter's, after wrecking the car high on meth)was best friends with the accused's former wife. The wife, after exiting rehab, accused the husband of molesting their daughters. When that didn't pan out, the oldest girl's best friend, who is mentioned above, said he molested her. At 13, she already had a sexual history.
3 weeks in jail, almost 20k borrowed from family, he had to plead no contest, because his lawyer was an excretion. The child's grandmother ignored subpeonas and changed the phone number. If it were my grandbaby, we'd have been there with bells on! Of course, Granny knew the child was already a pathological liar, and wanted to hide. I think that girl, now 18, was molested. Their father was murdered when they were toddlers. Mom had a drug habit, and who knows what was running through the house. Early sexual activity, and an inclination to lie. That fits Crystal.
Beware of what you see on the Megan's Law website. The real predators aren't caught until it's too late. When they are caught and released, the last thing they do is register.
Crystal needs help. If not for herself, then for her kids...
Scuse me was 32? She was in high school?
Did she graduate or spend all her time teaching scuse me to read?
Hmmm, alcohol history? Have you ever heard of this website?
www.justsaynotoaddicts.com ????
Good questions. There is a lot to look at in terms of possible psychological episodes and conditions. I would expect the trial judge to give the defense quite a bit of latitude in getting subpoenas for the info, with most of it undoubtedly delivered under seal. There will be a huge fight over admissibility, probably with appeals by the losing side.
Are you planning to share with the rest of us?
As I said in an earlier post Occam's Razor supports your explainnation. But mixing up things happens once or twice. When they keep mentioning are raped claim at age 16 and now mention a boyfriend she met in high school, well someone you have not met until 16 is unlikely someone you can report raped you when you were 13 or 14 or 15.
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