[atlaw]

Whether the accused and "the second dancer" (as she has come to be known) are "strippers" is the elephant in the living room.

How odd that the Duke boys paid $800 collectively to ogle a couple of strippers (what, they don't have "gentleman's clubs" in Durham)?

And how odd that the Duke boys called an escort service to hire these two "strippers".

No one is willing to say that the two strippers were in fact call girls, because that opens up some disturbing ramifications. That the Duke boys in fact had sex with the accuser (and possibly "the second dancer"). That the sex was simply what the accuser and "the second dancer" were selling and what the Duke boys were buying. That the evidence of rough sexual activity found by the nurse at Duke hospital was the, um, expected result of the transaction, or perhaps the result of one of numerous prior transactions that the accused engaged in before arriving at the Duke party around midnight. Etc., etc.

Heaven forbid we should actually ask these questions. Better to pretend that $800 is the going price for a couple of "exotic dancers".

[atlaw]

Oops. That should have been "whether the accuser and the second dancer . . . "

[Perdogg]

If you look in the Durham phone book online, you cannot find strippers, just escorts.

[SirJohnBarleycorn]

Better to pretend that $800 is the going price for a couple of "exotic dancers"

The descriptions of the photos by reporters who have seen them include a couple where one dancer is on top of the other, and vice versa.

It appears that the strippers were not merely stripping, but were having sex with each other (or at least beginning to, when the strippers called off the show). So your point that $800 seems high for 2 hours of mere stripping may be valid, but on the other hand the high cost may be because the two women had promised to engage with sex with each other as part of the routine.

[staytrue]

I think they card people at strip clubs so the underage team members would not be able to go. This is why they hired the strippers and not because they wanted to have sex.

[Ken H]

No one is willing to say that the two strippers were in fact call girls, because that opens up some disturbing ramifications.

Rough sex with neither the players' DNA left behind, nor traces of a condom?

The players have not changed their story, and every piece of evidence that we know about backs their version. This is really very simple. The Duke players are telling the truth, and the strippers are lying.

[dc27]

Strippers do not show up to a house without a male bodygaurd.