Creative also has this Zen Vision, and this beats out most other MP3/ Video players, even on the battery access feature. And this particular player has one of the highest signal-to-noise ratios (97 dB, higher than most others, including iPod's and Sony's equivalents)
But its price ranges from US$ 350-400.
You could also check out the Creative Zen Vision M, pictured below:
19 posted on 04/23/2006 8:00:24 PM PDT by CarrotAndStick
(The articles posted by me needn't necessarily reflect my opinion.)