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US Citizen working in Mexico
e-mail | 4/21/2006 | unknown

Posted on 04/21/2006 10:49:21 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II

US Citizens Working in Mexico

The following from a director with SW BELL in Mexico City.

I spent five years working in Mexico.

I worked under a tourist visa for three months and could legally renew it for three more months. After that you were working illegally. I was technically illegal for three weeks waiting on the FM3 approval.

During that six months our Mexican and US Attorneys were working to secure a permanent work visa called a FM3. It was in addition to my US passport that I had to show each time I entered and left the country. Barbara's was the same except hers did not permit her to work.

To apply for the FM3 I needed to submit the following notarized originals (not copies) of my:

1. Birth certificates for Barbara and me. 2. Marriage certificate. 3. High school transcripts and proof of graduation. 4. College transcripts for every college I attended and proof of graduation. 5. Two letters of recommendation from supervisors I had worked for at least one year. 6. A letter from The ST. Louis Chief of Police indicating I had no arrest record in the US and no outstanding warrants and was "a citizen in good standing." 7. Finally; I had to write a letter about myself that clearly stated why there was no Mexican citizen with my skills and why my skills were important to Mexico. We called it our "I am the greatest person on earth" letter. It was fun to write.

All of the above were in English that had to be translated into Spanish and be certified as legal translations and our signatures notarized. It produced a folder about 1.5 inches thick with English on the left side and Spanish on the right.

Once they were completed Barbara and I spent about five hours accompanied by a Mexican attorney touring Mexican government office locations and being photographed and fingerprinted at least three times. At each location (and we remember at least four locations) we were instructed on Mexican tax, labor, housing, and criminal law and that we were required to obey their laws or face the consequences. We could not protest any of the government's actions or we would be committing a felony. We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process. When this was done we could legally bring in our household goods that were held by US customs in Loredo Texas. This meant we rented furniture in Mexico while awaiting our goods. There were extensive fees involved here that the company paid.

We could not buy a home and were required to rent at very high rates and under contract and compliance with Mexican law.

We were required to get a Mexican drivers license. This was an amazing process. The company arranged for the licensing agency to come to our headquarters location with their photography and finger print equipment and the laminating machine. We showed our US license, were photographed and fingerprinted again and issued the license instantly after paying out a six dollar fee. We did not take a written or driving test and never received instructions on the rules of the road. Our only instruction was never give a policeman your license if stopped and asked. We were instructed to hold it against the inside window away from his grasp. If he got his hands on it you would have to pay ransom to get it back.

We then had to pay and file Mexican income tax annually using the number of our FM3 as our ID number. The companies Mexican accountants did this for us and we just signed what they prepared. I was about twenty legal size pages annually.

The FM 3 was good for three years and renewable for two more after paying more fees.

Leaving the country meant turning in the FM# and certifying we were leaving no debts behind and no outstanding legal affairs (warrants, tickets or liens) before our household goods were released to customs.

It was a real adventure and If any of our senators or congressmen went through it once they would have a different attitude toward Mexico.

The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant. They never protest at their White House or government offices but do protest daily in front of the United States Embassy. The US embassy looks like a strongly reinforced fortress and during most protests the Mexican Military surround the block with their men standing shoulder to shoulder in full riot gear to protect the Embassy. These protests are never shown on US or Mexican TV. There is a large public park across the street where they do their protesting. Anything can cause a protest such as proposed law changes in California or Texas.

Please feel free to share this with everyone who thinks we are being hard on illegal immigrants.


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1 posted on 04/21/2006 10:49:22 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Undocumented aliens are criminals in Mexico. How dare we treat Mexicans the same.


2 posted on 04/21/2006 10:52:36 AM PDT by mikeus_maximus (Welcome to Meximerica, courtesy of the GOP.)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
The Mexican Government uses its vast military and police forces to keep its citizens intimidated and compliant

Coming soon to the USofA, when they get a critical mass of their people here and are able to elect "their" people to office here. There won't be any chatter about "civil rights" from the now outnumbered gringos. Any such talk will be met with the same repression.

The whole thing is a sucker play. As your narrative should make anyone realize, the Mexicans play the game a lot harder. They see us as weak and exploitable, our politicians as easily bribed and coerced (you don't even have to pay the mordida, you just call them names and they roll over). And in Mexico, that means you're their little butt boy.

The caudillos must go to bed laughing their butts off. They would never stand for this crap.

3 posted on 04/21/2006 10:59:25 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: HiJinx

A Thugland Ping


4 posted on 04/21/2006 11:00:11 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Americans. Doing the jobs that Mexicans won't do.


5 posted on 04/21/2006 11:00:37 AM PDT by opinionator
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

No wonder so many want to come to our country. Can't blame them.


6 posted on 04/21/2006 11:02:08 AM PDT by mlc9852
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To: mikeus_maximus

In Mexico they must enforce the laws. How stupid does that sound? I always said ... "I do not what the Rusiians did, but they never have illegals trying to get into the country."


7 posted on 04/21/2006 11:02:13 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Tell me why you work down there "again"?


8 posted on 04/21/2006 11:02:21 AM PDT by jackibutterfly (.)
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To: jackibutterfly

Notice the source was an e-mail, I do not work there. But I am sure that the guy was doing a job that a Mexican wouldn't


9 posted on 04/21/2006 11:04:28 AM PDT by Thomas Jefferson II (If we could harness the energy from our fore-fathers spinning in their graves)
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
We could not buy a home

this part is B.S.

10 posted on 04/21/2006 11:37:15 AM PDT by TheOracleAtLilac
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To: jackibutterfly

It had to be the money!What other reason would someone put themselves through all that!


11 posted on 04/21/2006 11:55:52 AM PDT by xarmydog
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To: Thomas Jefferson II
"We paid out four thousand dollars in fees and bribes to complete the process."

lol... If they did this, they are either morons or their company was paying for everything so they just didn't care. I suspect the latter. No way does it cost $4,000 to get a Mexican green card. In fact, if they had been hired by a Mexican company, all of the above would have been taken care of for them. Their lawyer screwed them big time.
12 posted on 04/21/2006 11:56:18 AM PDT by monday
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To: monday

Rush said that they arrested 1100 in those raids at the German pallet co.


13 posted on 04/21/2006 12:48:08 PM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: Regulator
They see us as weak and exploitable, our politicians as easily bribed and coerced (you don't even have to pay the mordida, you just call them names and they roll over).

They're not the only ones, the whole world does these days.

14 posted on 04/22/2006 4:02:33 PM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Thomas Jefferson II

Eleven years later, you might be interested in this article:

http://americandigest.org/mt-archives/issues_episodes/_the_following.php


15 posted on 02/28/2017 1:20:00 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: TWITTER, FACEBOOK, CNN, ESPN, NFL)
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