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To: The Republic is Lost

I don't know the whole of the treaty. I THINK the Ramapoughs are recognized owners of that portion of the Bergen COUNTY park, and that park is administered by the state and county.

But I THINK that the treaty states that the park is in fact Ramapough reservation.

I'd like someone who really knows to answer.

I DO know that the tribe has been gathering there, and riding ATVs, for decades.


11 posted on 04/21/2006 9:58:33 AM PDT by Al Gator (Remember always to pillage BEFORE you burn!)
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To: Al Gator

I was on the freeway the other day and was directed off by a patrolman. It was a detour due to construction. I did not challange the patrolman, even though I had full legal rights to drive there. I guess I could have challanged him, forced escalation to the point he had to shoot me. I chose not to. That is why we have courts, and an Indian should feel REAL GOOD going to court against a white eyed devil.


17 posted on 04/21/2006 10:12:18 AM PDT by The Republic is Lost
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To: Al Gator
I don't know the whole of the treaty. I THINK the Ramapoughs are recognized owners of that portion of the Bergen COUNTY park, and that park is administered by the state and county. But I THINK that the treaty states that the park is in fact Ramapough reservation. I'd like someone who really knows to answer.

The area, which really is not large, used to be owned by the catholic church. What wasn't, was and is own by 'the tribe'.

When I was a kid a little know secret was you could get access to fish on the church's property, but had to go see the monsenior for a pass. Once on the grounds, usually the only people you saw was from the 'tribe'. Scarey in looks. Scarey because they packed weapons.

The church sold off a lot of land to the state, used to create the Ramapo Reservation (Park). Other acres were used to expand Ramapo college.

Don't confuse 'reservation' with indian reservation. Bottom line: Once church owned, now state owned. What's not, was and is private land owned by individuals of the 'tribe'.

20 posted on 04/21/2006 11:28:41 AM PDT by Swanks
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